Posts by darkspilver

For starters this forum (which is excellent), and the Reddit EXJW subreddit are two quite completely different style of forums. But IMHO the balance has shifted in even just the last couple of months.

This forum has some great and relatively in depth discussions that span weeks, months, even years. It's also an amazing repository of discussions from over the last 15 years which SImon has thankful kept all online.

Reddit is much more 'linked' based and has relatively quick-fire discussions that last a day or so.

But in the end I think it boils down to three reasons - posting limits, engagement and numbers.

POSTING LIMITS: With the relatively strict posting limits imposed here (I believe I'm on 1 new topic and 10 posts per 24 hour period) for which I understand the reasons for (spam etc etc) But actually this works out to be a disincentive to post, in case you want to post something later, but can't, because you've used up your daily limits, sometimes without realising it (there is no 'counter', there used to be), and the post is queued until some unknown time later - posters here mention how their threads and posts turn up a day or so later.

ENGAGEMENT: Although you can not really compare the 'like'/'dislike' button here with the Reddit system of using the 'upvote' button... you do compare and there is much more engagement/feedback and posts on the Reddit EXJW subreddit . Of course that's partly due to the numbers.

NUMBERS: There's more people on the Reddit EXJW subreddit . Even allowing for 'throw-away' usernames. People can read both this forum and the Reddit without 'joining' but... the Reddit EXJW subreddit seems to show around 250-350 people 'online' at any one time.

When you post a new topic on the Reddit EXJW subreddit, you can see how times the topic has been viewed - generally for me it's around 400 to 900 times - some of the link topics I've started have had 1,600 to 2,600 views. If I'm going to post, more people will benefit if I post on Reddit.

With the huge child abuse news coverage yesterday, the Reddit EXJW subreddit gained it's second highest number of new subscribers in the last five years - some 340 new subscribers.

How many new members joined here yesterday? Two. And they are both spam bots, posting spam. That's a problem. (not the spam, but the lack of numbers joining).

This forum is always going to have the deeper, longer discussions which is great. Reddit is going to have the quick-fire, fun, get the info, type discussions.

Nowadays, I'm starting to post first on Reddit, and sometimes here, second, cut-and-pasting from my Reddit topics.

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UK Jehovah's Witness Child Abuse News - All The Links from November 20 and 21, 2017

by darkspilver in

in reverse order.

tuesday, november 21, 2017. .

bbc radio hereford and worcester - kathleen hallisey interviewed regarding jehovah's witness abuse cases.

darkspilver

In reverse order

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2017

BBC Radio Hereford and Worcester - Kathleen Hallisey interviewed regarding Jehovah's Witness abuse cases
IN PRINT: The Times Newspaper - Jehovah's Witnesses 'hushed up child abuse'
IN PRINT: The Daily Mail Newspaper - Victims of Jehovah's Witness abuse 'told not to report it'
IN PRINT: The Daily Telegraph Newspaper - Jehovah’s Witnesses accused of covering up child abuse
The Daily Mail - Victims of Jehovah's Witness abuse 'told not to report it'

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2017

New York Post (US) - Jehovah’s Witnesses accused of systematically covering up sex crimes
The Daily Caller (US) - REPORT: Jehovah’s Witness Members Told Reporting Child Abuse ‘Would Bring Reproach On Jehovah’
BBC Radio Scotland - 'Good Morning Scotland': Nick tells his story
BBC TV: 'Midlands Today' - JW Abuse - UK BBC TV Video
BBC TV: 'Midlands Today' - Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse
The Daily Telegraph - Jehovah's Witnesses claim they were told not to report child sex abuse as organisation is accused of sheltering abusers
BBC Radio 4: 'PM' - Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse
The Independent - Jehovah’s Witnesses deny sexual abuse within church was covered up
BBC TV: 'News at One' - Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse
The Times - Jehovah’s Witness child abuse victims told ‘not to go to police’
The Sun - VICTIMS HUSHED: Children who were raped by Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘told NOT to report abuse because it would shame the church’
NewsOK (US) - Jehovah's Witnesses 'covered up' abuse
International Business Times - Raped at the age of four, Jehovah's Witness told 'not to report' child abuse
Birmingham Mail - Jehovah's Witnesses deny telling abuse victims not to call the police
BBC News Online - Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

BACKGROUND - (Richard Davenport)

Mum-of-two raped by her brother when they were children slams appeal court for cutting his sentence, Daily Mirror, May 26, 2016

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2018 Memorial and Special Talk Speculation

by SplaneThisToMe in

so we all know that the special talk titled "who really is jesus christ?

" will be given before the memorial next year which is very new.

also new this year is that the special talk will be prerecorded and given by a branch committee member rather than a brother from the local congregation.

darkspilver

The Big Machine: It is strange that this year it's before the Memorial rather than after like it always has been in the past.

No. They've had the Special Talk before the Memorial in the past quite a number of times.

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BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

by Lostandfound in

today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

darkspilver

More coverage from today (November 21, 2017)

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Angry the BBC covered J.W. child abuse on the national TV news at 1pm but not 6pm or 10pm

by Isambard Crater in

did the j.w lawyers gag the bbc or something?

not even newsnight covered it.

it was given 3 minutes every hour on the 24-hour bbc news channel though i guess..

darkspilver

stan livedeath: has anyone got a link to the BBC news programme that its in ?

It was on the BBC News at One and Midlands Today.

BBC TV Midlands Today: Jehovah's Witnesses featured re:child abuse - UK West Midlands Local TV News, Nov 20, 2017

BBC UK TV: 'Midlands Today' - Jehovah's Witness Child Abuse TV Report (video) - Nov 20, 2017

MORE LINKS HERE: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4902912666894336/ig-uk-bbc-news-storyy

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BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

by Lostandfound in

today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

darkspilver

More coverage from today (November 20, 2017)

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BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

by Lostandfound in

today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

darkspilver

freddo: I believe - but cannot prove - there is a reported case in Ireland only this year where elders were removed (soundness of mind was the charge can you believe?) because they went to the authorities and what they knew came from either elders "investigations" or judicial records.

Yeah, I think these are the two threads you need to read (it happened in last year, but got media coverage this year):

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/79furq/ireland_the_sunday_business_post_a_failure_to/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7da6nl/september_9_2016_re_special_committee_ireland/

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BBC radio 4 Now

by cofty in

major story on main 6pm program now on jw non-reporting of child abuse.

expert reckons there are thousands of unreported cases still to be revealed.

mp planning to raise it in parliament!

darkspilver

Check out: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4902912666894336/ig-uk-bbc-news-storyy

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All Body of Elders in the UK – A Warning!

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

shortly after rising this morning (monday 20th november 2017), i checked the news on the bbc’s teletext service.

in the uk (page 1010) the following had top billing…... “jehovah’s witnesses ‘covered up’ abuse”.

“children who were sexually abused by jehovah’s witnesses were allegedly told by the organization not to report it.. victims from across the uk told the bbc they were routinely abused and that the religion’s own rules protected perpetrators.. one child abuse lawyer believes there could be thousands of victims across the country who have not come forward.. the organization said it did not ‘shield’ abusers and any suggestion of a cover-up was ‘absolutely false’.”.

darkspilver

Nicholaus Kopernicus: I checked the news on the BBC’s teletext service.

WAIT! - this must surely be FAKE! Hasn't the teletext service been closed down??

anyway, check out:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4902912666894336/ig-uk-bbc-news-storyy