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2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

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now available:.

2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.

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Phizzy: I find the figures for Ireland hard to follow, an increase in Peak Pubs, but a big increase in the ratio of general population to Pubs, which translates to a huge minus % in the last column. Would this not mean that Ireland has had a huge population increase in just one year ???

haha! thanks! they ARE hard to follow....

It appears that WT has made another typo/mistake (see notes at bottom of table regarding population of Guinea-Bissau)

WT appears to have added the population of Ireland (4.75 million) with Northern Ireland (1.85 million) to make 6.6 million

WT Ireland 2016

Population: 4,713,993
Peak Publisher: 6,585
Congregations: 119

WT Ireland 2017

Population: 6,632,107
Peak Publisher: 6,747
Congregations: 120

The figures for Britain appear to be unaffected with the above mistake.

Until the WT updates their own figures - I'll use 4,773,095 from The World Bank
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.TOTL?locations=IE

This therefore gives:

Ireland 2017 CORRECTED

Population: 4,773,095
Peak 2016: 6,585
Peak 2017: 6,747
Increase: +2.5%
2016 Ratio: 716
2017 Ratio: 707
Real Terms Increase: +1.2%

In the Grand Totals, this slightly decreases the Population, I also appear to have a mistake/typo regarding the Grand Total Ratios (excl 'Other Lands') - the 2016 ratio is 649.6 (rounded to 650) and the 2017 ratio is 648.3 (rounded to 648) - the percentage increase in real terms appears to be uneffected at +0.2%

I will be looking at editing and re-posting an updated table - I want to see first if WT are going to edit their own data with regard to Russia, Guinea-Bissau and Ireland befor I rush out another version......

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2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

by darkspilver in

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now available:.

2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.

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darkspilver

slimboyfat

For clarification, I thought 1.4% increase was the summarised worldwide growth in average publishers. Is that wrong? Or is it a coincidence that the increase in average publishers matches the increase in peak publishers for this year?

Year-on-year growth for Average Publishers was 1.43407% - which rounds down to 1.4%

Year-on-year growth for Peak Publishers was 1.39386% - which rounds up to 1.4%

Using Peak Publishers is not great - but the table compares like-with-like, Peak 2016-with-Peak 2017

See also my comments here

Regarding Russia see my comments here

The congregation numbers are really interesting.

I don't think you can look purely at number of congregations, you need to look as how many publishers are in each one - in the US they average 91 publishers-per-congregation.

Colombia lost 213 congregations, while growing 1.6%

In practical terms it means that the 173,802 publishers in Coloumbia have gone from an average of 67 publishers-per-congregation to 74 publishers-per-congregation.

In comparision, their 'next-door' neighbour, Venezuela, with 149,355 publishers has an average of 79 publishers-per-congregation.

The decline in Germany is quite amazing. They have lost 41 congregations in a single year, despite massive immigration to Germany over the last few years.

They still have an average of just 78 publishers-per-congregation.

South Africa lost 58 congregations. That's pretty huge.

I don't really think so - I believe South Africa was the country that was featured in the July 2017 Broadcast regarding KH seat utilization!!

See: WT VIDEOS: Merging Congregations and Seat Utilization (from Nov 2016 and July 2017)

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2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

by darkspilver in

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now available:.

2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.

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darkspilver

dropoffyourkeylee: What is meant by %Real Terms? Eighth column from left

See the notes at the bottom of the table.

Increase (or decrease) of Jdubs compared to population increase (or decrease) from 2016 to 2017.

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2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

by darkspilver in

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now available:.

2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.

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darkspilver

Now available:

2017 Service Year Report Worldwide: Table with individually listed lands and countries

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New round of elders and MS schools going on, anyone have a inside scoop on any of the info being shared there?

by optimisticskeptic in

confidential items are of most interest of course, just curious what they're talking about there in general and what are the newest things everyone is being warned about, etc.

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darkspilver

I believe you're refering to the KMS (Kingdom Ministry School) - the one-day school for Elders (on Saturdays) and Ministerial Servants (on Sundays).

The full outlines, with videos - all in English are here:

Leak: officially videos and talks to Kingdom Ministry School 2018

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Inactive/Inactive Publishers ... Are they all counted?

by Wild_Thing in

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forgive me if this specific question has been asked and answered.. the jw worldwide report includes their number of publishers, but it doesn't make a distinction between inactive, irregular, or active.

do they include everyone?

in other words, the "faders" that don't dissociate ... are they forever counted in their yearly publisher report because they are technically just an "inactive publisher"?.

darkspilver

WIld_Thing: Is there a Watchtower document you can point to that says that?

Yes. The following explains some background:

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/how-many-jw-members/

BUT also see the following, which explains it a bit more 'honestly' using a Watchtower article from 2011:

Watchtower's Peak Publishers are Fake Publishers

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Does a jw have to miss counting time for 6 months to be inactive

by blondie in

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how many months consecutively does a jw have to miss turning in time to be inactive?.

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What about arwen?

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5301492949975040/where-blondie

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The Elephant in the room: ExJw disunity

by Diogenesister in

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fantastic new video by the lovely susan gaskin and friend andrea discusses the huge variety of exjw opinions and why our supposed disunity is in reality our strength.

the witnesses will claim we cannot agree and there are nothing but fights and a lack of harmony within our community whereas they are the most unified religion who believe the same things where ever you go.

however andrea points out that this is just an illusion, there is no unity amoung jws.

darkspilver

stuckinarut2: I pulled out the blackboard and wrote the following words on it : UNITY or UNIFORMITY... Oh, I was "counselled" firmly for this after the meeting!

Counseled by who exactly??

Awake May 8, 2003
The Bible’s Viewpoint: Does Christian Unity Require Uniformity?
Religion today seems to be characterized by disunity. Even within the walls of one church, people may have a variety of conflicting beliefs in matters of doctrine and conduct. One writer put it this way: “It’s even difficult to find two people who believe in exactly the same God. These days, it seems, every human being is a theology unto himself.”
In stark contrast with this, the apostle Paul exhorted first-century Christians in Corinth to “speak in agreement” and to “be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.” (1 Corinthians 1:10) Some today criticize Paul’s admonition. ‘People are different,’ they argue, ‘and it is wrong to insist that all Christians think or act in the same way.’ But was Paul really recommending robotic conformity? Does the Bible allow for personal freedom?
Unity, Not Uniformity
In another of his letters, Paul urged Christians to serve God with their “power of reason.” (Romans 12:1) Certainly, then, he would not have been trying to turn members of the Corinthian congregation into unthinking automatons. But why did he tell them to be “fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought”? Paul gave this counsel because the congregation in Corinth was experiencing a serious problem. Factions had developed, so that some viewed Apollos as their leader while others favored Paul or Peter or held only to Christ. Such disunity was no trivial matter, for it threatened the peace of the congregation.
Paul wanted the Corinthians to “observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace,” just as he later admonished the Christians at Ephesus. (Ephesians 4:3) He was encouraging the brothers to follow Jesus Christ unitedly, not to be split into disunited groups, or sects. In this way they would enjoy a peaceful harmony of purpose. (John 17:22) Paul’s counsel to the Corinthians thus served to readjust their thinking and promote unity, not uniformity.—2 Corinthians 13:9, 11.

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PHILIPPINES - "December 15, 2017 letter Re: 2017 Service Year Report" - with local numbers and highlights

by darkspilver in

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the previously posted wt letter of december 15, 2017 "re: 2017 service year report" was for the us congregations.. as expected the second (and third) paragraphs of the letter are being re-written to feature highlights in the local field to the congregations that it is addressed to.... hence below is what i understand to be the highlighted figures in the letter that is being sent and read out (in the first week of january 2018) to congregations in the philippines.. i believe that the philippines is traditionally one of the wt's *star performers* in terms of growth (*cough*cough* if you exclude the 1975-fallout) .

(previous year's figures in brackets) .

peak publishers: 210,914 (209,131).

darkspilver

The SPANISH version of the letter is now available:

SPAIN - "December 15, 2017 letter Re: 2017 Service Year Report" - with local numbers and highlights

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UK: Significant donations to World Wide Work 2015-2017

by truthseeker in

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i'm analyzing the 221 congregations in the uk that had additional account info.. correct me if i'm wrong, but was it 2015 when the letter was read out instructing congregations to donate excess funds to the world wide work?.

the amounts donated to the world wide work are significant.

i still have much work to do.. truthseeker.

darkspilver

truthseeker

You may find the "2018/2019 Day Volunteer Congregation Assignments" useful as a list of current congregations.

Check it out here: Files you might want!