Posts by berrygerry

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New Awake! Dealing With Mental Illness

by runForever in

contains a list of 9 practical steps except they forgot one: 10. do not become a jehovah's witness.. .

1. follow the treatment prescribed.

by qualified mental-health.

berrygerry

This JW may just possibly, need a teenie-weenie bit of help.

SS testified at the Hearing. Initially he was tearful when referencing his concern for his sister and her soul and faith. He spoke in an intelligent and coherent manner and was appeared forthright in his testimony. SS indicated that he did suffer from schizophrenia. He noted that he had joined the Jehovah Witness church and that he had gone to his parents home on March 20, 2010 and spoke with his sister about his faith and beliefs. He stated that he did so because in the past he had always helped her with such things as getting employment. He noted that he encouraged her to keep up her faith and pray to God. SS stated that his sister left the room in which they first were talking privately and so he followed her and began to speak with her in their first language again advising her that he was willing to walk with her and willing to support her in her faith. SS noted that he had her by the wrist and that he was asking her to come to the Kingdom Hall and walk the walk of faith. SS noted that at this time his sister’s boyfriend asked SS to leave the home. SS noted that he raised his voice and that SS said this was a “family matter” and “religious issue.” SS indicated that his sister was crying and that he then held his hand up to the boyfriend at which point the boyfriend pushed SS. SS stated he then punched the boyfriend in the right side of the face. SS noted that the boyfriend did not need medical attention. SS testified that he understood why the family felt threatened by this incident and that he relayed this information to the doctors. SS indicated that he was a non-violent person and that he would only harm others in self-defense if he were attacked first. SS indicated that he did not have a criminal record and had never harmed anyone in the past.

SS stated that he no longer struggled with demons. He noted that he had heard voices of demons who told him “Jesus was a fag” and that this was before Christmas service. SS noted that he became ill in January after hearing this voice. SS indicated that he also heard the voice of God. When asked if God was in charge, SS responded by stated that he had “submitted his will to God.” SS then indicated that he has not received instructions from God in the past but has heard comforting messages or comments on what SS was doing from God. SS indicated that he had never been told to harm anyone by either the demons or by God. SS noted that on one occasion he was driving down the street when his lane was coming to an end and there was no room to merge when God said “you’re safe” and then a clearing came in the traffic for him to merge into.

http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onccb/doc/2010/2010canlii21323/2010canlii21323.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAHamVob3ZhaAAAAAAB

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are jw immigrant increasing in your area

by berrygerry in

i bumped into a sister a while back, who was a law-student, immigration law.. .

at the time, i thought that it was unusual for a jw to be so open about going to uni.. after going through cdn jw court cases though, the highest percentage of cases involve foreign jw's claiming refugee status.. is this part of their growth strategy?.

africans who become jw's get strategic assistance to claim refugee status in western countries?.

berrygerry

I bumped into a sister a while back, who was a law-student, immigration law.

At the time, I thought that it was unusual for a JW to be so open about going to uni.

After going through Cdn JW court cases though, the highest percentage of cases involve foreign JW's claiming refugee status.

Is this part of their growth strategy?

i.e. Africans who become JW's get strategic assistance to claim refugee status in western countries?

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Sick, sick, sick - Elder-Missionary gets off.

by berrygerry in

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berrygerry

Thanks, DT. PD made weird statements then for for a white S.A.

I was tempted to contact Merlyn McNutt, also in that class, an ancient Cdn CO, whom I've known forever (VERY nice guy).

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Judge reprimands lawyer for failing to disclose connection to church

by aposta-Z in

i saw this link on facebook (thank you watchtower uncensored):.

http://www.canadianlawyermag.com/legalfeeds/985/judge-reprimands-lawyer-for-failing-to-disclose-connection-to-church.html .

a witness and a lawer.

berrygerry

Haven't found a follow-up on this case, as it was appealed by WTS.

The result is summarized here: http://estatelaw.hullandhull.com/2014/02/articles/uncategorized/sawdon-estate-v-sawdon/

Sawdon Estate v. Sawdon

By Hull & Hull LLP on February 11, 2014 Posted in Uncategorized

Earlier this month the Ontario Court of Appeal released it’s decision in Sawdon Estate v. Sawdon. The decision provides an interesting discussion on cost awards in estate matters and in particular on the right of an estate trustee to be indemnified for the legal costs they incurred. I recently did a podcast with David Smith on this decision which should be posted today, but I think the case is worth further consideration.

I will briefly summarize the facts in this case below. The deceased, Arthur, was survived by his five children. Prior to his death he transferred seven bank accounts into joint ownership with a right of survivorship with two of his sons. The total value of the accounts was slightly over $1 million. He told his sons that upon his death the money was to be divided amongst his five children equally. He also left a Will which provided for specific bequests to his children and the residue to go to a charity called the Watch Tower. His son, Wayne, was appointed estate trustee. At trial, the Watch Tower argued that the bank accounts were held on a resulting trust for the estate. Wayne and the other children of the deceased took the position that the accounts were not estate assets. At trial, the Court found in favour of the estate trustee and beneficiaries and ordered the Watch Tower to pay the costs of the estate trustee on a partial indemnity basis. Wayne sought an order that the balance of his legal costs be paid out of the estate. The trial court declined to make that order. The Watch Tower appealed the decision, including the costs order. The estate trustee cross-appealed arguing that he should be indemnified from the estate for any costs not recovered from Watch Tower. The Court of Appeal dismissed Watch Tower’s appeal and granted the estate trustee’s request for indemnification from the estate. They reviewed the basic principles with respect to cost awards applicable in the circumstances. In particular, they discussed the case law which provides that an estate trustee should be indemnified for his or her legal costs out of the trust unless they have (i) acted unreasonably or (ii) acted in their own self- interest. In my opinion the most interesting part of this decision is the point made by the Court of Appeal that although Wayne took a position that the bank accounts were not part of the estate, and therefore he was not trying to enlarge the estate assets, the litigation did benefit the estate and he was not acting in his own self-interest. Rather, he was fulfilling his duty as ab estate trustee to verify the assets of the estate and to ensure that the testator’s wishes were carried out. The Court of Appeal was not troubled by the fact that Wayne stood to benefit in his personal capacity if the bank accounts passed outside the estate. They also said that the estate trustee had an obligation to present evidence in his knowledge about the deceased’s wishes, and it would not have been proper for him not to advance such evidence and remain neutral in the proceedings. Finally the Court of Appeal said that they saw no problem with making a “blended” costs award, where multiple parties pay a certain portion of the costs award. In reaching its decision, the Court emphasized that if estate trustees are faced with the prospect of personally paying costs, then more people will decline such appointments and more estate trustees will avoid bringing proper matters before the Court. This case should bring some comfort to estate trustees as it provides further authority for the proposition that estate trustees should ordinarily be fully indemnified for their legal costs out of the estate.

Thanks for reading!

The court record is here: http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2012/2012onsc4042/2012onsc4042.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAHamVob3ZhaAAAAAAB

Prior to TTATT, one would never have believed the depth of lying that WTS would go to grab cash.

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Jehovah's Witnesses win partial victory over gated communities. Too little too late?

by Balaamsass2 in

monday, november 24, 2014last update: 1:00 pm pt.

jehovah's witnesses win community access case.

by jack bouboushian .

berrygerry

Sorry, when was this decision made?

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They didn't get away with this one

by berrygerry in

at least they didn't get away with this one.. he was convicted, despite wts extreme efforts to quash a search warrant.. (a pity that the us has crazy "religious privilege" rules - canada is far more sensible)/.

http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/2007/2007bcsc1455/2007bcsc1455.html?searchurlhash=aaaaaqahamvob3zhaaaaaaab.

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berrygerry

At least they didn't get away with this one.

He was convicted, despite WTS extreme efforts to quash a search warrant.

(A pity that the US has crazy "religious privilege" rules - Canada is far more sensible)/

http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/2007/2007bcsc1455/2007bcsc1455.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAHamVob3ZhaAAAAAAB

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Another dandy Cdn JW

by berrygerry in

whoa.. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=utf-8&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww.canlii.org%2ffr%2fqc%2fqctaq%2fdoc%2f2012%2f2012canlii92987%2f2012canlii92987.html%3fsearchurlhash%3daaaaaqahamvob3zhaaaaaaab&edit-text=&act=url.

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berrygerry

Then we inherited colony rights of usage.

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Does anyone waste the court process more than JW's?

by berrygerry in

[3] ms. lohmeyer is a member of the jehovahs witnesses.

while she was unable to confirm that the central beliefs or articles of faith of the jehovahs witnesses include a prohibition against joining or providing financial support to a trade union, she testified that she personally objected to the fact that a portion of the dues that she would be required to remit might be used by the union to support a political party.

ms. lohmeyer stated that she believed this to be in violation of purported biblical injunctions against supporting organizations that might become involved in conflict.. .

berrygerry

Mrs. Sorenson asks that I vary the order I made as to costs

in her favour by awarding costs as between solicitor and client.

I accede to that request. The organization argues that the

intervention of Mrs. Sorenson was unnecessary. But the Court,

quite properly under the circumstances, accorded her standing in

the proceedings. The position of the organization that she should

be deprived of costs borders on the ironic given that the

organization maintained the litigation in the name of Mr. Lawson

to advance their own interests. Moreover, counsel for the

organization made efforts to prolong the litigation and thus

greatly increase costs on grounds which were entirely irrelevant

to the issue raised in the petition, namely jurisdiction.

http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/1990/1990canlii1696/1990canlii1696.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAHamVob3ZhaAAAAAAB

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Does anyone waste the court process more than JW's?

by berrygerry in

[3] ms. lohmeyer is a member of the jehovahs witnesses.

while she was unable to confirm that the central beliefs or articles of faith of the jehovahs witnesses include a prohibition against joining or providing financial support to a trade union, she testified that she personally objected to the fact that a portion of the dues that she would be required to remit might be used by the union to support a political party.

ms. lohmeyer stated that she believed this to be in violation of purported biblical injunctions against supporting organizations that might become involved in conflict.. .

berrygerry

[3] Ms. Lohmeyer is a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. While she was unable to confirm that the central beliefs or articles of faith of the Jehovah’s Witnesses include a prohibition against joining or providing financial support to a trade union, she testified that she personally objected to the fact that a portion of the dues that she would be required to remit might be used by the Union to support a political party. Ms. Lohmeyer stated that she believed this to be in violation of purported biblical injunctions against supporting organizations that might become involved in conflict.

[4] Ms. Lohmeyer stated that she objected to joining any trade union that required a pledge of allegiance as she viewed it as anathema to the concept that there is only one kingdom, that being the kingdom of God. Ms. Lohmeyer further objected to the payment of dues to the Union because she believed that it made political donations. She said that because of her religious beliefs she does not belong to any political party and does not vote in governmental elections.

http://www.canlii.org/en/sk/sklrb/doc/2005/2005canlii63106/2005canlii63106.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAHamVob3ZhaAAAAAAB

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Another dandy Cdn JW

by berrygerry in

whoa.. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=utf-8&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww.canlii.org%2ffr%2fqc%2fqctaq%2fdoc%2f2012%2f2012canlii92987%2f2012canlii92987.html%3fsearchurlhash%3daaaaaqahamvob3zhaaaaaaab&edit-text=&act=url.

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berrygerry

Whoa.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.canlii.org%2Ffr%2Fqc%2Fqctaq%2Fdoc%2F2012%2F2012canlii92987%2F2012canlii92987.html%3FsearchUrlHash%3DAAAAAQAHamVob3ZhaAAAAAAB&edit-text=&act=url

Oh, won't you be my neighbour?