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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

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  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  berrygerry

  And this one from 52:30 onwards. (Also a talk from 1972):
  http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/SpecialTalks/Kite%20Floyd%20-%20Are%20You%20Marked%20for%20Survival.mp3

  "Let me assure you of this, there are a dozen inexorable forces at work right now that are converging together, inside of this decade, that will spell disaster for this system of things, and there is nothing that no human can do to prevent it. If you've been waiting, I'd say this is time to act."

  And then more jibberish about the generation.
  
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  History of Disfellowshipping

  by daringhart13 in

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  i'm looking to compile a real history of how this heinous practice came into existance.. i've read the 1947 article condemning it and i believe knorr instituted it in 1952 when frustrated with a wife swapping ordeal at columbia heights.. can someone confirm?

  post information?

  the more the better.......thanks!.

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  Rutherford took over the WT by disfellowshiping the ones designed by Russell in his testament and anyone that didn't agree with him. He claimed to be one of the anointed, and it took him 12 years to get baptized.

  Can someone expound on "it took Rutherford 12 years to get baptized"?
  
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  ApostateChick Strikes again "Jehovah's Witnesses--Why The @#$% Are You Here? "

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  fyi just saw her latest youtube vid.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwd72g8pb3q.

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  berrygerry

  I hope everyone here realizes that she has decided to return to the Borg.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5KaSOHp1uA

  which is a crying shame, as I enjoyed her vids so much, especially:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5lGCCjkRFA
  
  
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  berrygerry

  Ahh, Bill the '69 Awake!

  "You will never grow old in this system."

  Ha-ha, what a classic!

  

  Say, that reminds me, Jack.

  Do you remember our families talking of the '41 convention?

  Ahh, yes, the Children book.

  Let's imitate Noah's sons, and wait until after Armageddon to have our own children.

  After all, it is only a few years away.

  
  

  Ha-ha, How can they keep this thing going?

  I don't know. But as long as I don't get kicked out of Bethel at my age, I'm just going to keep nodding my head. (I'm really just dozing off anyways.)

  Party on Bill.

  Party on Jack.
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  berrygerry

  LoisLane looking for Superman 4 hours ago

  I placed that magazine, while I was, of course, pioneering. and

  LL

  Hey stranger, where have you been?
  
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  Jehovahs Chariot ... as driven by the GB

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  someone mentioned "jehovahs chariot is on the move" on another topic and i immediately had flashbacks to those articles where they tried to explain how a chariot could have wheels that went in every direction and also had eyes, something idiotic.. i had a chuckle because the image that then popped into my head when i thought about those wheels going every direction was not one of those clever honda devices with the clever wheel thingy - no, it was a supermarket trolley.

  you know the ones where one or two of the wheels wobbly and have a mind of their own and typically want to veer off suddenly into an elaborate display of tinned food?.

  that is jehovahs chariot as driven by the governing body.

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  berrygerry

  One minute the internet is evil and the next it's the best thing ever and everyone should use an iPad for everything.

  This week's demonstration.

  (Feb 2015 KM )
  

  He then organizes his service bag and makes sure that his electronic device is ready to play.

  I'm reflecting on the old phonograph witnessing, and that the higher-ups in WTS are thinking, "Hey it worked in the past - let's do it with tablets."

  The differences are:

  - portable phonographs were unique and fairly novel,

  - most of the population in the past was unsophisticated, and unable to research compared to what is readily available today.

  Given the comments in the number baptized thread, I cannot imagine this tablet witnessing having any impact whatsoever in western lands.

  Is there anyone still in that is using a tablet (Go Moses!) door-to-door?

  If so, what is the response compared to pushing magazines?
  
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  New french member / new website

  by jw-verite in

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  i've been reading you for several months now and at last i decided to register !

  i'm not sure if my post is in the good category so feel free to move it if it is not.... i'm french and i da'd in last november, losing my family by the way... i'm married and my wife is still in but our couple is still strong.. i still believe in the bible and i go from time to time in a baptist church.. i created a french website to expose the watchtower and its false teachings.

  there is not a lot of websites like jwfacts in french so i tried to make it !.

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  Welcome frere.

  Condolences on your family - sad story.

  https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jw-verite.org%2Fqui-suis-je.html&edit-text=
  
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  Catholics admit failure - Wake up WTS

  by berrygerry in

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  2. child-abuse

  rome (ap) pope francis' point man on clerical sex abuse said monday the failure of the catholic church to punish bishops who covered up for pedophiles had seriously harmed its credibility and that it must now lead the way by "humbly making the commitment to accountability, transparency and zero tolerance.

  "cardinal sean o'malley, archbishop of boston, said canon lawyers and theologians were reviewing proposals to present to the pope on holding bishops and religious superiors accountable.

  the proposals were developed by francis' commission of experts, which o'malley chairs and includes two survivors of abuse.. ....

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  the pope is all talk and no action...

  Could be - I am hardly a Catholic apologist.

  However, their point man says that they have failed.

  The Mormons have opened up about some of their mistakes.

  WTS response - "screw off!" We've supplanted Jesus - Who are you to dare to even question anything that we have said or done?

  "We are unaccountable and infallible."

  "If it seems that we have been wrong in some way in the past, it is Jehovah's will, as a test."
  
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  JW Children - We're normal, and have fun at conventions, etc.

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was reading a poster's experience with custody, and the info in wts child custody packet.. children are prepped to present themselves as normal, with school friendships, hobbies, activities, etc.

  and not to mention that their life-goal is to pioneer.. the school brochure (1983) contains this gem:.

  "they [witness families] also travel several times each year to attend larger gatherings called circuit assemblies and district conventions.

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  12. Since many of us include attending the assembly during our vacation period.

  This could probably use a new thread, but I may as well add that, Yes, attending the assembly was "included" during our vacation period.

  In fact, I told one employer that I was quitting just before the business' absolute busiest time of year - and so, the owner paid my plane tickets to attend the convention, and I quit after the busy period.

  One year later, as per WTS instructions of Putting Kingdom Interests first, I did quit the next job, as the employer would not accommodate my demand for a premium week of vacation to attend the convention in another city.

  No, not a cult, not at all.
  
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  JW Children - We're normal, and have fun at conventions, etc.

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was reading a poster's experience with custody, and the info in wts child custody packet.. children are prepped to present themselves as normal, with school friendships, hobbies, activities, etc.

  and not to mention that their life-goal is to pioneer.. the school brochure (1983) contains this gem:.

  "they [witness families] also travel several times each year to attend larger gatherings called circuit assemblies and district conventions.

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  berrygerry

  You go back to the motel, and sleep (if you are lucky, you might watch a little TV or have a radio on).

  Sorry, no - you are supposed to be reviewing the program with your family.