Posts by berrygerry

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Any Letterman Fans

by berrygerry in

not many shows left.. was a fan from his nbc days when he had a lot of innovation.. no question, he has a quick mind, which to me, is a key to comedy.. a distinct memory was awakening my poor pre-teen daughter when dave was back on the air after his heart surgery.. no matter what, is a changing of the guard (if only the wt could do the same)..

berrygerry

Watching his final episodes.

Featured his Mom's appearances tonight.

She was adorable.

Haters - you are denying history.

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so back to thee days a week at the KH

by oppostate in

so now with the saturday viewing of videos at the kh there's pressure to be at the kh to see the gb do their thing.

this week's thing of course is beg for more money.

also they are meeting to practice singing the new songs when no new videos are out.

berrygerry

Then there is the "good feeling" that attendees get because they think they are "pleasing" Jehovah.

You have summarized the whole religion in one sentence.

"Pleasing Jehovah" = pleasing the WTS.

Thank you Jehovah for making it easy to understand.

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20/20 A house Divided FLDS church

by James Mixon in

i can't believe they still going strong.

tonight on 20/20.. the clippers basketball game is done.lol.

berrygerry

It would be nice for JW's to watch this and make the connection.

Nope. THAT IS A CULT! We have THE TRUTH.

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20/20 A house Divided FLDS church

by James Mixon in

i can't believe they still going strong.

tonight on 20/20.. the clippers basketball game is done.lol.

berrygerry

No, I understand.

It's like the old Catholic "blessing" of a marriage by the priest on the bride.

It's just, okay, this is 2015.

And the poor "apostate" mom's efforts to connect with her kids - any DF'd JW parent knows this ANGUISH.

Fucking cults.

(And MEGA-kudos for ABC for taking on cults.)

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20/20 A house Divided FLDS church

by James Mixon in

i can't believe they still going strong.

tonight on 20/20.. the clippers basketball game is done.lol.

berrygerry

Okay.

Seed-Bearer ritual is ...

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20/20 A house Divided FLDS church

by James Mixon in

i can't believe they still going strong.

tonight on 20/20.. the clippers basketball game is done.lol.

berrygerry

Watching it now.

Cultonomics.

(Child labor on an industrial scale - hmmm.)

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

berrygerry

The idiotic reasoning behind the original JW quote is that one should continue "serving Jehovah" even if the organization fails to live up to what is expected of it. But get this: by "serving Jehovah", what they really mean is blindly serving the corrupt organization that doesn't measure up to what it professes to be, because they equate "serving Jehovah" with being in the organization.

"The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation."

Could not be simpler.

Also, does not the wording indicate that there would be a form of worship that is not clean and is defiled?

Would not that defiled form of worship be the neglecting of orphans and widows (doesn't state "Christian" orphans and widows either)?

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OMG - How Low Can They Go?

by berrygerry in

i'm sorry if this has been posted previously, but i haven't noticed it.. this was posted on reddit.. has anyone seen this moneysuck video:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ylee4u_yu.

berrygerry

I'm sorry if this has been posted previously, but I haven't noticed it.

This was posted on reddit.

Has anyone seen this moneysuck video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5YleE4U_YU

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Doctrinal Spring Cleaning

by berrygerry in

loved this term used in a recent thread.. with the wts' realization/declaration that the freddie franz type/antitype mushroom era is over, questions remain for me over 2 remaining, primary teachings (without even mentioning the daniel and revelation ones).. can someone play apologist and explain:.

1. why can the faithful slave be defended as what the wts explains this verse to be?.

2. how in the heck can the chariot in ezekiel be explained away as "jehovah's earthly organization?

berrygerry

From JW . Borg:

“Types and Antitypes.”

Brother Splane delivered this talk, which explained why in recent years our publications have not discussed types and antitypes as much as they once did.

In the past, many faithful men and women mentioned in the Bible were said to foreshadow groups of faithful Christians in our time. Likewise, a number of Bible accounts were thought to be prophetic of events involving God’s modern-day servants. Admittedly, it can be fascinating to study such comparisons. Why, then, have our recent publications seldom mentioned types and antitypes?

The Scriptures indicate that some characters and events foreshadowed someone or something greater. Where the Bible makes a clear connection between a type and an antitype, we gladly accept it. “But where the Bible is silent, we must be silent,” said Brother Splane. We should avoid reading too much into an account.

In no way whatsoever does Ezekiel 1 intimate that his vision was of " a chariot." What is the "clear connection" of this vision to that which is used every bloody week, as that of Jehovah's chariot, which is explained as being his earthly organization?

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Doctrinal Spring Cleaning

by berrygerry in

loved this term used in a recent thread.. with the wts' realization/declaration that the freddie franz type/antitype mushroom era is over, questions remain for me over 2 remaining, primary teachings (without even mentioning the daniel and revelation ones).. can someone play apologist and explain:.

1. why can the faithful slave be defended as what the wts explains this verse to be?.

2. how in the heck can the chariot in ezekiel be explained away as "jehovah's earthly organization?

berrygerry

Loved this term used in a recent thread.

With the WTS' realization/declaration that the Freddie Franz type/antitype mushroom era is over, questions remain for me over 2 remaining, primary teachings (without even mentioning the Daniel and Revelation ones).

Can someone play apologist and explain:

1. Why can the Faithful Slave be defended as what the WTS explains this verse to be?

2. How in the heck can the chariot in Ezekiel be explained away as "Jehovah's earthly organization?"