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  Can you prove that WT policy of shunning is unscriptual? Will soon be discussing with somebody, give me all your ammo!

  by EndofMysteries in

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  will soon be discussing w/ somebody still in about that.

  i want to make sure i am not missing anything good.

  so any scriptures, articles whether wt articles or secular about effects of shunning, etc, or your arguments against how wt interprets their scriptures, etc.

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  berrygerry

  The onus is to prove that shunning IS scriptural, not the other way around.

  That having been said,

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.php

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.php#unscriptural
  

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.php#bible

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.php#history

  As JWFacts notes, shunning was condemned by WTS in 1947, but then copied RC in 1952.

  Also, in WT August 1, 1974, there was a fairly balanced article on not being fanatical shunners.

  Divine Mercy Points the Way Back for Erring Ones
  Maintaining a Balanced Viewpoint Toward Disfellowshiped Ones

  The Ray Franz' and others' "revolt" in Brooklyn led to the 1981 position that has been vigourously applied since.
  
  
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  1914—The Turning Point in History - Really?

  by berrygerry in

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  1914the turning point in history.

  30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.

  german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .

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  1914—The Turning Point in History

  30 From the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the Bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world. German statesman Konrad Adenauer said: “Thoughts and pictures come to my mind, . . . thoughts from the years before 1914 when there was real peace, quiet and security on this earth—a time when we didn’t know fear. . . . Security and quiet have disappeared from the lives of men since 1914.”25 People living before 1914 thought that the future “would get better and better,” reported British statesman Harold Macmillan.26 The book 1913: America Between Two Worlds notes: “Secretary of State Bryan said [in 1913] that ‘conditions promising world peace were never more favorable than now.’”27
  31 So, right up to the very brink of World War I, world leaders were forecasting an age of social progress and enlightenment.

  WTS often trots out these quotes as though the start of war in 1914 was a complete surprise to the entire world.

  PBS is running a show (produced in 2014) called S/Her Majesty's Secret Service - about MI6.

  MI6 was formed in 1909, expressly because of the rising threat of German militancy.

  Hmmm.
  
  
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  So this Cute Chick at the KH ...

  by brandnew in

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  2. friends

  thought she was gonna take a pic of me on the sneak.

  im df'd...been df'd for over 19 years already.

  so she probably would have gotten away with it without anyone knowing.....except that her flash was on.

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  berrygerry

  Oh, and they like the bad boys more than they will ever admit.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDLLPW20y3U
  
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  Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

  by lsw1961 in

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  after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

  but some left the organization.

  however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

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  berrygerry

  Kingdom and Kingdom qualities are not cherry picking—they are absolute truth (if practised makes your life light giving only benefits to you and those around you)

  
  

  This is true of most religionists and non-religionists.

  
  

  This was what Dubs have always been fed - that the worst Dub is better than the best non-Dub.

  
  

  Horseshit. I have zero Dub neighbours. I have asked favours from Dubs in our KH, and it was like asking a favour from the Mob. I phoned my "worldly" neighbour for a favour, and they were ready to help in 15 minutes.

  
  

  ALL of my "worldly" neighbours' work ethic, family life, marital fidelity, sense of community PROVE to me that WTS teaching, that is, that worldly people are evil, and that Dubs should contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to humanity, is nothing short of Satanic.
  
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  83,000 theocratic facilites?

  by average joe in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a bethelite was telling me that there are 83,000 theocratic facilities world wide.

  he compared that to 35,000 mcdonalds and 21,000 starbucks roughly to show the size of the theocratic organization.

  i am not sure where the 83,000 comes from what would he be counting?

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  Now if they would only put some exhaust fans in those facilities, so that when Br. What-the-Hell-Have-You-Been-Eating does his business ...
  
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  Too Funny Prank

  by berrygerry in

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  from a redditor - would have died to have been there.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3sukbu/our_congregation_happens_to_have_a_networked/.

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  From a redditor - would have died to have been there

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3sukbu/our_congregation_happens_to_have_a_networked/
  
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  Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

  but some left the organization.

  however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

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  berrygerry

  What do you / your group think of the newest teaching (by the Borg) about the evil slave in Matthew?
  
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  Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

  but some left the organization.

  however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

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  berrygerry

  This is an interesting post considering your other post.
  
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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

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  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  berrygerry

  My money is down on Splane...anyone want to give me odds? It is either Splane or someone else who is going to turn out to be 'Nehemiah'.

  Splane would be the last GB to be fired.

  He`s a dickwad, but he`s as close to being a Freddy as anyone will ever be.
  
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  Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  doesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?

  how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?

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  berrygerry

  Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?

  Not really, most are just schemes. ;)