it was about 15 years ago.......... i was at a one day special event in woodburn or.
i was talking to lyman swingle about how the society could save some money.
it was a crazy idea ( to crazy to relate here)...............anyway he laughed and said to me.. "brother..........we have always had the money to do the things we needed to do.......and if we didn't.......we felt it was god's holy spirit telling us, it wasn't what we should be doing".......so...i said "so the money is like a barometer, no approval, no money"......he said "yea..... i guess you could say that!
"Brother..........We have always had the money to do the things we needed to do.......and if we didn't.......we felt it was God's holy spirit telling us, it wasn't what we should be doing".......SO...I said "So the money is like a barometer, no approval, no money"......He said "Yea..... I guess you could say that!"
Who of the GB was it that said: 'We're not sure if Warwick has God's blessing' or whatever the quote was?
it was about 15 years ago.......... i was at a one day special event in woodburn or.
i was talking to lyman swingle about how the society could save some money.
it was a crazy idea ( to crazy to relate here)...............anyway he laughed and said to me.. "brother..........we have always had the money to do the things we needed to do.......and if we didn't.......we felt it was god's holy spirit telling us, it wasn't what we should be doing".......so...i said "so the money is like a barometer, no approval, no money"......he said "yea..... i guess you could say that!
bttt
pretty pertinent
of course, no one could ever fully replace "our oracle for over 50 years" (ray franz quoting karl klein or someone else on the gb back in the days of gb i in cofc somewhere ), but i have to wonder just who on gb ii has come to fill fred franz's shoes the most.
it seems like it is david splane.
he appears to be in charge of the writing department, proposes and pushes thru the gb most of the doctrinal changes (he announces them so they're his baby), and like ff, fancies himself musically inclined.
Splane is far and away the go-to guy as far as doctrine is concerned, with Sanderson as his protege.
Morris is a bully.
Lett is just plain nutty, but seems to enjoy it.
Losch, Herd, and Jackson are just cashing in on the job.
i just spoke to my dad who's been an elder since ~'72 and still is.
he told me about a meeting he just had about kh annual maintenance.
whoever led the meeting (not sure who) announced the world leaders in re locations owned:.
In urban legend, no one is better than JW's.
this is the singlemost best watchtower article i have ever read.. it almost brought tears to my eyes (please note the almost ;-)).
"what is truth?
"this question is one which every sincere christian should ask and seek to answer.
July 1879, Presumably, then the first edition of Watchtower.
All downhill from there.
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/30/brooklyn-heights-and-dumbo-properties-jehovahs-witnesses-havent-yet-sold-part.
21 clark st.. .
80 willow st.. .
It was initially acquired in 1986 by Cohi Towers Associates, a wholly owned Watchtower entity,
Also curious. (Also tax exempt, I assume)
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/30/brooklyn-heights-and-dumbo-properties-jehovahs-witnesses-havent-yet-sold-part.
21 clark st.. .
80 willow st.. .
let's imagine that a 10 year old gets baptized.
parents split and kid never goes back to the hall again.
15 years later kid celebrates christmas and gets df since some dub saw him celebrating.
minors can go to jail too. If a person decides that he no longer wants to be a JW, he can leave, but in the JW community that it is a sad and disgraceful thing. If anyone young or old thinks that he can un-JW himself without any consequences, he has to be kidding. AKA un-ring the bell or annul a marriage after 6 pregnancies,or be a virgin again after intercourse.
All of this is absolute total bullshit.
First-off, in most advanced lands, there are NO minors in jail.
However, more importantly, minors who have committed a crime have bloody well committed.a crime.
Children who were born into a cult HAVE DONE NO WRONG.
You are arguing that they should have been born under a different circumstance.
This is 2015, not whatever backwater year that you think that children should be arguing as to where or when they should have been born.
let's imagine that a 10 year old gets baptized.
parents split and kid never goes back to the hall again.
15 years later kid celebrates christmas and gets df since some dub saw him celebrating.
So, how do you differentiate why it is not OK for a child to consent to sexual abuse, but that that same child is capable to consent to emotional and spiritual abuse?Sometimes yes.
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it is still strange, that an organization, lead by a group of old timers, is gaining billions at the moment, without giving any transparency and accountancy feedback, because these men "trust each other", and come away with that.. they got the property investment by the use of cohi associates, and deposit their liquid assets at the caymans.. it is clear: the real power behind the jw.org facade is securing his future.. don't get me wrong, i'm not insane, but more and more i got this strong gut feeling that some governmental organization has the real power.. gorby.
Without being a total conspiracy-theorist, I think that the New Zealand branch sale was a precursor.
SOMEBODY has considerable influence as to the money/real estate of this Org.
That SOMEBODY has seen the MENE MENE TEKEL PARSIN, and has determined the moves of the next five years.
They are real estate development and sale related.
