Posts by berrygerry

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JW Real Estate Owned

by badcompany in

jw
friends

i just spoke to my dad who's been an elder since ~'72 and still is.

he told me about a meeting he just had about kh annual maintenance.

whoever led the meeting (not sure who) announced the world leaders in re locations owned:.

berrygerry

In urban legend, no one is better than JW's.

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Really beautiful Watchtower article about truth

by Anders Andersen in

this is the singlemost best watchtower article i have ever read.. it almost brought tears to my eyes (please note the almost ;-)).

"what is truth?

"this question is one which every sincere christian should ask and seek to answer.

berrygerry

July 1879, Presumably, then the first edition of Watchtower.

All downhill from there.

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Brooklyn Heights and DUMBO properties the Jehovah's Witnesses haven't yet sold: Part One

by wifibandit in

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/30/brooklyn-heights-and-dumbo-properties-jehovahs-witnesses-havent-yet-sold-part.

21 clark st.. .

80 willow st.. .

berrygerry

It was initially acquired in 1986 by Cohi Towers Associates, a wholly owned Watchtower entity,

Also curious. (Also tax exempt, I assume)

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Brooklyn Heights and DUMBO properties the Jehovah's Witnesses haven't yet sold: Part One

by wifibandit in

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/30/brooklyn-heights-and-dumbo-properties-jehovahs-witnesses-havent-yet-sold-part.

21 clark st.. .

80 willow st.. .

legal action to Baptism of minor annulled?

by cyberjesus in

let's imagine that a 10 year old gets baptized.

parents split and kid never goes back to the hall again.

15 years later kid celebrates christmas and gets df since some dub saw him celebrating.

berrygerry

minors can go to jail too. If a person decides that he no longer wants to be a JW, he can leave, but in the JW community that it is a sad and disgraceful thing. If anyone young or old thinks that he can un-JW himself without any consequences, he has to be kidding. AKA un-ring the bell or annul a marriage after 6 pregnancies,or be a virgin again after intercourse.

All of this is absolute total bullshit.

First-off, in most advanced lands, there are NO minors in jail.

However, more importantly, minors who have committed a crime have bloody well committed.a crime.

Children who were born into a cult HAVE DONE NO WRONG.

You are arguing that they should have been born under a different circumstance.

This is 2015, not whatever backwater year that you think that children should be arguing as to where or when they should have been born.

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legal action to Baptism of minor annulled?

by cyberjesus in

let's imagine that a 10 year old gets baptized.

parents split and kid never goes back to the hall again.

15 years later kid celebrates christmas and gets df since some dub saw him celebrating.

berrygerry

Sometimes yes.

So, how do you differentiate why it is not OK for a child to consent to sexual abuse, but that that same child is capable to consent to emotional and spiritual abuse?

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it is still strange, that an organization, lead by a group of old timers, is gaining billions at the moment, without giving any transparency and accountancy feedback, because these men "trust each other", and come away with that.. they got the property investment by the use of cohi associates, and deposit their liquid assets at the caymans.. it is clear: the real power behind the jw.org facade is securing his future.. don't get me wrong, i'm not insane, but more and more i got this strong gut feeling that some governmental organization has the real power.. gorby.

berrygerry

Without being a total conspiracy-theorist, I think that the New Zealand branch sale was a precursor.

SOMEBODY has considerable influence as to the money/real estate of this Org.

That SOMEBODY has seen the MENE MENE TEKEL PARSIN, and has determined the moves of the next five years.

They are real estate development and sale related.

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legal action to Baptism of minor annulled?

by cyberjesus in

let's imagine that a 10 year old gets baptized.

parents split and kid never goes back to the hall again.

15 years later kid celebrates christmas and gets df since some dub saw him celebrating.

berrygerry

A child does not qualify to give consent to sex.

Ahh, but they do qualify to be baptized, with all of the adult repercussions?

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legal action to Baptism of minor annulled?

by cyberjesus in

let's imagine that a 10 year old gets baptized.

parents split and kid never goes back to the hall again.

15 years later kid celebrates christmas and gets df since some dub saw him celebrating.

berrygerry

Rephrasing for Simon and Fish.

let's imagine that a 10 year old consents to sex with an adult. 15 years later, the kid, now a 25-year-old adult, realizes that the then-consensual sex has seriously affected his/her life.

can he/she get his consent at 10-years-old annulled?

can the adult involved be taken to court?

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"Theocratic Warfare" still alive and well within Watchtower in 2016!

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

it seems like the watchtower is still encouraging "theocratic warfare".

in the no.1 watchtower of 2016, they (ironically) printed an article on honesty.here is something they said:"lyingwhat is it?

saying something false to someone who is entitledto know the truth.

berrygerry

WHAT IS IT? Saying something false to someone who is entitled
to know the truth.

Awesome catch.

Even in 2016, only elders, and positionally above in WT, are ENTITLED to truth.

Everyone else, WTH are you asking? Okay - back room.