Posts by berrygerry

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What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?

by Iamallcool in

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i want something different on my next pizza!.

berrygerry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lOG3rD5CrQ

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i was wondering if someone could help me with a question.. i am a rookie exjw, i only left the organization 4 months ago and everything i've discovered (un/arc/malawi/mexico etc) i've only discovered in the last few months so you can image it's been a huge shock to me especially after after 50 yrs!.

every time i think i've heard everything, something else pops up.. now i've come across a youtube video that mention tv evangelizer jimmy swaggart and the watchtower.

i remember jimmy swaggart from the time i lived in the u.s.a and i remember the scandals with him and prostitutes etc.

berrygerry

WT was always driven by sales and money. They simply changed their wording and methods over the years.

http://imgur.com/a/KvYUq

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Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

by John Davis in

i wanted to get people's opinion on something.

how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.

there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.

berrygerry

Reverse question:

What do you think of elders lying in court?

What do you think of elders and the branch not reporting child abuse?

What do you think of Headquarters not obeying court orders?

What do you think of GB members not obeying subpoenas?

Does this smack of a criminal organization?

Is it more important to discuss the ethics of an organization, or of the ethics of dealing with an unethical organization?

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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall

by pale.emperor in

has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.

berrygerry

The videos are another step in the progression of ensuring compliance.

The WT studies in our congo spent an inordinate amount of time dissecting the photos, which showed us EXACTLY what we should be garnering from the written material.

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Watchtower Internet Presence Spells Doom For the Cult With Every Passing Year.

by Brokeback Watchtower in

think of it : the internet as a source of information and exposing to human kind many alternative interpretations of literature content spells doom for watchtower bull shit as all countries raise their intelligence to what is right and wrong and what is self serving and biased by religious indoctrination, such consciousness will become so common place that religious bull shit will not be very tolerated by the masses as we proceed forward.

it is just a matter of excellorateded of information available to the mean average users.

berrygerry

There are internet religions that do very very nicely for themselves.

Any examples.

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I was impressed by part of today's symposium entitled ' Safeguard your children from what is evil'

by UnshackleTheChains in

well i have to give credit where credit is due.

it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.

the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".

berrygerry

I am seeing more and more that the org is more reactive than proactive. A lot of times, when there's some change, important article, etc., it's because the org is reacting to something that affects it.

And even then, it's only after 20 years have gone by.

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Russia Moves to Declare the Bible “Extremist”

by NikL in

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sorry if this has been mentioned already.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/by-region/russia/hearing-bible-extremist-20170727/.

kind of misleading headline.

it's the nwt version they want to label as extremist not the bible itself.. for those that don't want to go to that obnoxious website, here is the text.... russia moves to declare the bible “extremist”.

berrygerry

falsely claim that the text was altered to fit the Witnesses’ doctrine.

This should be interesting.

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my jw dad cryed to me about closing his crong

by JunkYardDog in

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i live in nyc and dad jw called me crying about a hall that has about 500 jws going down to 2 congs

berrygerry

a hall that has about 500 jws going down to 2 congs

500 or 50 ?

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Blood Transfusions/Blood Salvage

by NJ501 in

hi all,i've been doing some research on blood transfusions and fractions.

i found out a patient can donate their own blood, so it can be used for elective surgery...i was wondering if theirs really any difference between a blood transfusion of your own blood and the blood salvage procedure.

i think quite similar since its just a re-transfusion of your own blood.. what are your thoughts?

berrygerry

Yes, there is a big difference.

The elders with a financial interest in the distribution of blood-salvage equipment make no money in autologous transfusions.

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Jehovah's Vatican Scandal?

by mrmagic in

someone sent this link of kelso law firm and their blog post on cardinal pell being australia's most hated man.

the implications are very interesting, as this is the 3rd most powerful man in the vatican.

the catholic church is no doubt much larger than jehovah's witnesses, however, the jw's incidence of child sexual abuse is about 4 times higher than the catholic church's child sex abuse (and subsequent coverups).. the main thread tying cardinal pell and the other vatican scandals to jehovah's witnesses is the australian royal commission.

berrygerry

Based on the Australia numbers, one could project the following:

Australia 68,000 publishers - 1006 perpetrators - 1830 victims

Globally 8,000,000 pubs - 118,000 perpetrators - 215,000 victims

If you had kids in a religion this relatively small, that would scare the shit out of me.