I listened to the BOE on audio a few months ago. It's made of two books. One deals with fallen angels or watchers. The other is about end time snad uses astronomy to predict the end times. The final chapters are classic and funny as israel is portayed through history as animals. .. giving the time of writing as 100-50BCE
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Why was the Book of Enoch omitted from the Bible..
by jam inthe book of enoch taught women magic, the art of war.
and cosmetic..they felt this book was too far out in left field.. the show "bible secrets revealed".. ok, magic vs having a monster baby by a angel.. so happy they omitted that book, otherwise women would.
be leaders of the militaries.
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What is spirit, exactly?
by Viviane ini've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
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I never had a problem with this. When I grew up I always thought God was like Q. lol Energy
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THE PROBLEM with reading the Bible literally is . . . you can't think too hard
by Terry ini want to begin with a quotation by stephen colbert: "we're not talking about truth, we're talking about something that seems like truth the truth we want to exist" - stephen colbert on the origin of the word "truthiness.".
moses brought 10 plagues upon egypt to change pharoah's mind about letting jehovah's people go.. the 5th plague is to destroy only the egyptian livestock:.
6 and the next day the lord did it: all the livestock of the egyptians died, but not one animal belonging to the israelites died.. a few days later the 7th plague is described:.
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I'm an athiest and the text is most likely quite knowable! The church father quoated enough that most of it can be reconstructed. There are of course thousands of varients but most are slips of the pen. Bart Ehhrman makes a big deal about gnostic texts but the fact is half of Paul's letters are gnostic
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Live Forever on a Paradise Earth
by HeyThere insometimes this sounds good...but....forever?
forever in a jw idea of perfection?
does this mean no sports, or detective tv shows, or bad neighborhoods?
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And when the sun becomes a red giant? When the sky goes black because stars are too far apart? When the 'Great Rip' tears apart atoms? When two branes eventually colide again and form a new universe? Yep we will live forever
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Evidence For Life After Death
by Space Madness ini'm not sure if i believe in life after death but i thought of something that has me leaning toward that direction.
unlike other living beings, humans have a consciousness that is separate from our brain.
two prime examples of this are addiction and dieting.
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I guess dolphins and elephants have afterlifes too. They have self conciousness.
Actually although I'm an athiest I do believe in a sort of afterlife but it's more on the quantum level.
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Why was the Book of Enoch omitted from the Bible..
by jam inthe book of enoch taught women magic, the art of war.
and cosmetic..they felt this book was too far out in left field.. the show "bible secrets revealed".. ok, magic vs having a monster baby by a angel.. so happy they omitted that book, otherwise women would.
be leaders of the militaries.
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Because the stories were designed for a Jewish Mystical audiance. It needs to be noted that the writer of Jude (Second Centery CE) quote a verse from the book.
Revelation's cosmology is based on the Book of Enoch.
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Are we seeing the beginning of the end for Kingdom Halls?
by nicolaou inafter all, "at this time,over 13,000 kingdom hall projects and 35 assembly hall projects are needed worldwide.".
hmmm, not too sure about that but all the recent re-branding seems to be heading .
could this be the long game?
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Simple.. KHs cost money.Internet is paid for by you to listsen or watch the talks and school. I imagine they will come up with a skype version for commenting at the WT lol.
However with the dismiss of KH will come more conventions or more elder's visits
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The Josephus Problem
by HowTheBibleWasCreated insomeone made a comment today that josephus cannot be trusted as a historical source.
they are right or half right.
obviously josephus was a self-centered historian.
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Someone made a comment today that Josephus cannot be trusted as a historical source. They are right or half right. Obviously Josephus was a self-centered historian. Example:
1. Third person ... He talks of himself in third person. A literay tactic to fool the reader into thinking he is humble.
2. Josephus has too many close misses. Like the cave.... here is the guy the WT quotes from all the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXNFyzv2z1U
Also spears are thrown at him... he gives speeches and wins over Roamn genrals. And predicts when cities will fall to the day<<< do you believe this? I don't
However despite this he is our main source for the Jewish War. He spends huge amount of time writing of the Essenes and I have my suspicions he was not really a Pharesee.
Why do I find a Josephus quote every 3rd or 4th WT article. Don't they know this guy was a traitor and a liar? I use his history sparingly and with skepticm.
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My Story,...again I guess
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini previously posted under howthebiblewasinvented however since then my comouter died and all info lost..thus the new name and new intro.
btw my post are always pg rated.. first i am a born in, baptized at 16 but could never kick the masterbation habit lol.
i felt jehovah would either 1: kill me at armagedden or 2: forgive me.. for the later hope i lived and after my father died i continued.
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Yes El. Exodus 3:14,15 and Exodus 6:3 try to cover this worship of El under the rug. Yet the fact remains if you change the word God to El when reading the Hebrew scriptures it makes more sense.
The New Testament assumes one god so the word God there is Theos which is actually a term for any deity.
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Jesus and the Money Changers - Matthew 21:12, 13
by Oubliette init occurred to me that there is a particularly relevant scripture in connection with all the recent changes regarding donations, pledges, loans, tithing and all the rest:.
jesus entered the temple and threw out all those selling and buying in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.
and he said to them: it is written, my house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a cave of robbers.
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A witness walks into the kh. No one knows him. He has 12 buddies so it's great for attendence records lol. He proceeds to grabb the contribution box and rip it out of the wall.
Elders aproach him and ask what is wrong. He screams: "Kill me I will be back in 3 days ha ha." The elders try to pysically shop him by his 12 goons keep them at bay.
He throws the money box down and scatters coins, envelopes and checks all over the floor. The 12 goons help themselves.
As one of the elders darts for the phone the witness names Jesus screams at them that they are sons of bitches (offspring of vipers)
The elders and upset by fear the congregation since so many hate them (the elders) and this Jesus dude is being rallied on by teens and 20 somethings.
Jesus now takes the curtains an makes a whip and started to chase the elders out of the hall screaming at them: "Stop making my father's house a house of contributions!"
Half of the witnesses leave. Half stay to hear the wisdom Jesus has to say. Jesus tells them to eat his flesh an drink his blood. All but the 12 leave.
Jesus looks to his firends and asks if they want to leave.
Pedro says: No boos. You're to coolest dude out there. Besides you showed those elders up!
Jesus mutteres something about a Judas in the group and leaves a deserted KH.
Good story?