Posts by HowTheBibleWasCreated

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Has anyone noticed in the NWT book of Psalms, some of them the "S" is left off

by Legacy in

i was at a meeting.

we were in psalms..i don't know why i was looking at the other books of psalms, & noticed that the"s" was left off of psalms...don't remember what chapters, being i don't have my bible with me now....check it out for yourselves.

i will come back when i find it myself.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Because the 'translators' of the New NWT are simply copiers not translators! The Psalm vs Psalms is easy to trace.

Its comes from the JPS 1985 subscriptions

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Let's talk about Bible Morality- Child Sacrifice

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

yes the bible is quite a moral book jws say.

see how it teaches all these good values...... (all quotes from the 2013 nwt with editation).

lets look at exodus 22: 29 you must not hesitate to make offerings from your abundant produce and the overflow of your presses.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Yes the bible is quite a moral book JWs say. See how it teaches all these good values.....

(All quotes from the 2013 NWT with editation)

Lets look at Exodus 22: 29 “You must not hesitate to make offerings from your abundant produce and the overflow of your presses.*+The firstborn of your sons you are to give to me.+

What an odd moral statement you might think... lets look closer at this:

Exodus 13: 11 “When YHWH brings you into the land of the Ca′naan·ites, which he has sworn to give to you and to your forefathers,+ 12 you must devote to YHWH every firstborn male,* as well as every male firstling of the livestock that you acquire. The males belong to YHWH.+ 13 Every firstling donkey you are to redeem with a sheep, and if you do not redeem it, then you must break its neck. And every firstborn male of your sons you are to redeem.+

Exodus 4:22 You must say to Phar′aoh, ‘This is what YHWH says: “Israel is my son, my firstborn.+23 I say to you, Send my son away so that he may serve me. But if you refuse to send him away, I am going to kill your son, your firstborn.”’”+

At this point some will point to Numbers where YHWH tells them the Levites replace the first born. But that is a late late work in the bible.

What does this mean?

It means one of the earliest layers of the bible (Schoolars call it E) has no problem with child sacrifice. Indeed Jeremiah mentions it repeatedly. Manasseh does it before.

What else does this work (E) say? Genesis 22 Let's be shocked:

Now after this El put Abraham to the test,+ and he said to him: “Abraham!” to which he replied: “Here I am!” 2 Then he said: “Take, please, your son, your only son whom you so love,+ Isaac,+ and travel to the land of Mo·ri′ah+ and offer him up there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains that I will designate to you.”3 So Abraham got up early in the morning and saddled his donkey and took two of his servants along with him and his son Isaac. He split the wood for the burnt offering, and then he rose and traveled to the place tha El indicated to him. 4 On the third day, Abraham looked up and saw the place from a distance. 5 Abraham now said to his servants: “You stay here with the donkey, but the boy and I will go over there and worship and return to you.”6 So Abraham took the wood for the burnt offering and put it on his son Isaac. Then he took in his hands the fire and the knife,* and the two of them walked on together.7 Then Isaac said to his father Abraham: “My father!” He replied: “Yes, my son!” So he continued: “Here are the fire and the wood, but where is the sheep for the burnt offering?” 8 To this Abraham said: El himself will provide the sheep for the burnt offering,+ my son.” And both of them walked on together.9 Finally they reached the place that El had indicated to him, and Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac hand and foot and put him on the altar on top of the wood.+10 Then Abraham reached out his hand and took the knife* to kill his son.

El's messenger called out of heaven:

Then he said: I do know that you are El-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.”

See the 'sparing of 'Isaac' was added later!

There is reason to believe that in Judges 11 a daughter really is sacrificed and this is prabably a continuation of this same source (My idea here)

(By the way considersing my slight changes to the etxt... I HATE the WT translation "... the true God..." It destroys the idea of the story.)

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Rare recorded MARKING TALK on APOSTASY

by Newly Enlightened in

we have a version with our commentary: http://youtu.be/yn17rj_pyd4.

we also have an un-cut, un-edited version of the audio: http://youtu.be/pihfucr38sw.

asl version: http://youtu.be/dd635pqpdle.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I started listening out of curiousity but almost fell down laughing. The guys speaking is one of the most disconnected speakers I have ever listened too.

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Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom - RC 2014 - Sunday

by OwnAccord in

a world without satan (revelation 20:2,3,7,10).

romans 12- joy in the kingdom hope.

the spirit.. demonstration: family worship.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Speaking of new scrolls... Does anyone notice the layout of the Kingdom Book there?^^^^

God's Kingdom PAST

God's Kingdom PRESENT - The bulk of the book progressing from more complicated matters of preaching the'good news' to congregational matters.

God's Kingdom FUTURE

Sounds like the WT is replacing the New Testament Past- Gospels+Acts.. Present Romans-Jude starting with the gospel preacing Paul to the congregational Petrine-Johannie and Jude letters. and finnaly the Revelation of the future.

Trust me this book will become important soon lol

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Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom - RC 2014 - Sunday

by OwnAccord in

a world without satan (revelation 20:2,3,7,10).

romans 12- joy in the kingdom hope.

the spirit.. demonstration: family worship.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

What a load of crap! I guess I need to learn Hebrew now.. Whooops hang on my pet zebra got lose while I was on a 70 year vacation. Crap this 'third testament' is so long it takes 10 years to read.

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What proof do we have that Moses was a real person???

by jam in

i personally believe moses was largely or entirely mythical.

is because much of his biography, if not most of it, is tied to events.

that never happened, meaning that a historical moses could not .

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Which laws are part of western cultures law codes?

The 10 commandments? Which version... Ex 20... Dtr 5....Ex 34

The Covenant Code Exodus 21-23 is put simply 3000 years out of date

The Holiness Code of Lev 17-26 is simply put the product of a sick mind.

The Dtr code of Dtr. 12-26 has maybe less then 5 parallels in modern laws and those are mere safety measures. The rest of that code is more of a Nazi authoritarian system

The other laws in the 'Torah' are sacrificial laws which if I satrted doing them would be arrested lol

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death and aging. . . i

by JWdaughter in

mortality sucks.

i dont know why this is such a revelatio to me.

i a. not confident to blame it o my jw upbringing.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I believe in a sort of pantheistic life after death. Sort of Quamtum Balance. However:

Before you were born ... you weren;t here. You didn't worry about it then

When you die you re not here ... You wont worry then

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What On Earth Makes The Watchtower Organization Think That Inactive Ones a Would Ever Want To Go Back To The Vomit?

by minimus in

jw
friends

do they actually believe that if they tell you that you are "missed", that you will desire to return to the sheepfold?

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HowTheBibleWasCreated

Some of us are still in for family.

Also I want to be here in September-Occtober to watch it crumble.

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"Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom! Regional Convention 2014 - releases and info

by OwnAccord in

info from someone at the regional convention:.

(sorry about the format).

matthew 6:33 keep on seeking first the kingdom.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

F**k are thses morons idiots?

2 Corinthians 12 1-5 follows chapter 11 where 'Paul' is taking the role of a 'madman'. READ THE WHOLE THING! He is bragging. The 'man in paradise' is himself and this had a literatry relation to 1 Corinthians 15... his own revelation of Christ.

The paradise concept is from the Book of Enoch.

The WT has fools making this up.

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Bible Atrocities

by Trapped in JW land in

i really can't wrap my head around how people can still consider god loving with such atrocious biblical accounts such as, 1 samuel 15, (god ordering the slaughter of amelikite baby's and children) 2nd kings 2, forgot the verses (god sending bears to maul 42 children) and many others.have you ever asked a witness or anyone elsewhat they think about these accounts?

what was their response?

i'd love to ask one, but unfortunately i'm still physically in the cult and i wouldn't want to raise any suspicions.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

The WT is beyond stupid. Samson in Hebrews 11 is considered a man of faith.

Gamglimg

Vengenge

Lying

Unsanitary food practices

Marriage outside the faith

Animal cruelty

Deliberate murder to avoid payment of gambling debt

Self-defense which turn into murder 1000 men using a jawbone (If he killed a few in self defense thats one thing but after a few guys the others would have been running and he would have been chasing)

Suicide bombing (sort of)

I asked an elder what he thought and his answer was: "If your were and Israelite you would have been cheering!" This of course ignores the facts of chapter 15 where his own people betray him. It also shows a low sense of JW morality.

Now I find Samson story easy since I know it came from the Hercules story.