Posts by HowTheBibleWasCreated

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Did the WT ever unofficially ban Kal-El?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

a few years ago avatar was 'demonized' by the wt.

in reality their argument had an extreme ignorance of hinduism and a poor knowledge of modern langauge (avatar means something else nowadays.... ).

but anyway when i was growing up my parents recorded the 4 supermen movies on to video tape as they were played on tv.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

A few years ago Avatar was 'demonized' by the WT. In reality their argument had an extreme ignorance of Hinduism and a poor knowledge of modern langauge (Avatar means something else nowadays.... )

But anyway when i was growing up my parents recorded the 4 supermen movies on to video tape as they were played on TV.

Nowadays I have them all on one DVD however I noted a few points:

In the first movie Lois calls superman metaporically 'a god' in their cloud scene.

In the second movie superman fights 3 demigods etc.

The third movie was loony and off the rocker so it need not be mentioned here.

The fourth movie had totally personified Satan as Solar man.

Through all this we must remember Supermans name is Kal-El.

El is a hebrew word that in post exilic times was used for God. (In Pre-Exilic times it was a deity seperate from yahweh.) Thus all through the bible would find names that start or end with El.

I was born 1978 thus by the time I started watching Superman on TV they were already reruns.

Did the WT ever demonize Superman like they did with Avatar?

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Cargo Cults a new model for the Watchtower

by villagegirl in

the new announcement in august is the redesign of the watchtower organization.

into a cargo cult https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlye2ks0-y.

it will be an easy sell the the rank and file because of the similarities of the watchtower to these cults.. after world war ii anthropologists discovered that an unusual religion had developed among.

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So the Governing Body is John Frum?

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Anyone recall asemblies actually being fun?

by tim hooper in

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when i was a wee lad, there was a carnival atmosphere at assemblies as this old footage will show:.

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http://www.britishpathe.com/video/witnesses-baptised/query/jehovahs+witnesses.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I remember the conventions of the early 80s. Big stadiums, cafteria lineups and long lunch breaks. Four day conventions. Most of my early assemblies were in Victoria BC but my parents would fly down to San Diego some years for the convention there... After the conventio was Sea World and a trip up to LA for Disneyland and Knotts Berry Farm.

Conventions used to be fun.... but we grew up

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What would this world be like today , if their was never , ever , any concept of a GOD or a Creator .?

by smiddy in

given the fact that religion has been such a divisive force throughout history amongst all nations and tribes of the earth , i wonder how things might have been different had their been no god / creator / religion in the mix.. of course religion alone has not been the cause of all mankinds troubles & conflicts with each other , nationalism , polotics , racism , to name a few are also guilty of these problems.. but it seems to me that religion , beleif in a creator / god and its consequences of such a beleif are the cheif causes of mankinds troubles.. remember this is your thoughts if a creator , god , religion didnt exist in human conscience .. what are your thoughts ?.

smiddy.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

There are many religions with out god or gods.

To be honest alot of them had greater sceintific progress.

Other nations with god/gods that distanced themselves from them accepting a more pantheistic society brewed great avancement.\\

Plato etc distanced himself from the gods.

I would highly recomend the movie Agora for those that want to see conflict between science and religion.

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How do you study? What are your methods of memorizing big amount of text?

by will-be-apostate in

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i'm having an exam in mineralogy in 20 days and need to learn 120+ pages of content.

i've learned a part of it so far.

i'm just curious how did you/do you study?

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Waking up at 3am puts you between two major sleep cycles... I wouldn't use it to memorize anything but to each their own

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Head coverings for women

by Comatose in

my mom used to throw a paper napkin on her head when forcing us to study after i was baptised.

i've seen scarves, and shawls, and a very few hats.. isn't using a napkin on your head just the same as not bothering?

what a dumb rule too.

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'Because of the angels...." <<< Jewish Mysticism... Hellenistic Jews came up with that idea of demigods having sex with girls before the flood. The WT loves this idea because.... Ellen G White loved it.... The WT are a reboot of the 7 day Adventists.

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A glaring example of how Watchtower's insertion of "Jehovah" corrupts the NT

by Island Man in

"the rnwt replaces "kyrios" (lord) with "jehovah" in translating romans 14:8 as follows:.

"for if we live, we live to jehovah,*+ and if we die, we die to jehovah.

* so both if we live and if we die, we belong to jehovah.".

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The New World translation is not the only translation to do this.

Scriptures 1998

An American Version

Messianic Israel Standerd

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The Spirits of God

by Stephen Levi in

revelation, chapter 1, 4: john to the seven churches which are in asia: grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven spirits which are before his throne;.

revelation, chapter 3, 1: and unto the angel of the church in sardis write; these things saith he that hath the seven spirits of god, and the seven stars; i know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

revelation, chapter 4, 5: and out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven spirits of god.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Although I am an athiest The Revelation referance to seven spirits is making use of Isaiah 11:2 as bobcat and Perry have pointed out. Before trying to figure out Revelation I would suggest reading Isaiah and Ezekiel because Revelation uses these two texts more that any other.

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Head coverings for women

by Comatose in

my mom used to throw a paper napkin on her head when forcing us to study after i was baptised.

i've seen scarves, and shawls, and a very few hats.. isn't using a napkin on your head just the same as not bothering?

what a dumb rule too.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

No different then many fundementals.

The law for girl being unclean longer then boys was partially sexist but mostly because they boys needed to be circuscised on the 8th day ritually. Girls didn't need to.

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Watchtower- Gnosticism

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

before i post this let me say i'm an atheist (though i have a respect for buddism and quantum mysticism).

the wikepedia definition of gnosticism is: "religions that taught that people should shun the material world created by the demiurge and embrace the spiritual world.

[1] gnostic ideas influenced many ancient religions[2] that teach that gnosis (variously interpreted as knowledge, enlightenment,salvation, emancipation or 'oneness with god') may be reached by practicingphilanthropy to the point of personal poverty, sexual abstinence (as far as possible for hearers, completely for initiates) and diligently searching forwisdom by helping others".

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Before I post this let me say I'm an atheist (Though I have a respect for Buddism and Quantum Mysticism)

The Wikepedia definition of Gnosticism is: " religions that taught that people should shun the material world created by the demiurge and embrace the spiritual world . [1] Gnostic ideas influenced many ancient religions [2] that teach that gnosis (variously interpreted as knowledge, enlightenment , salvation , emancipation or 'oneness with God') may be reached by practicing philanthropy to the point of personal poverty , sexual abstinence (as far as possible for hearers , completely for initiates ) and diligently searching for wisdom by helping others"

1. Sunning that material world.

Boy do they ever! Check out the Friday afternoon program for the RC this year. Family Bad, Employment Bad, Education Bad etc.

2. A demiurge.

The WT uses Yahweh/Jehovah as a tool. Unlike other religions that seem to have reverance for God the JWs have a fear of him.

3. Embracing the spritual world.

Yep. Meetings, Field Service etc. The average JW can't even define what sprituallity is.

4. Enlightenment salvation!

Here is the biggest point. JWs have a huge 'divine plan' of Genesis-Revelation and if you don't know it you DIE! If you do you 'might' make it. (Zeph. 2:3)

5. Personal poverty and Sexual abstinence.

I don't need to highlight this since we all know it is true for JWs.

6. Searching for wisdom by helping other in the JWs case is to do a marginally legel knocking on doors etc and Teaching them about the 'knowledge that leads to everlasting life'.

The JWs are right in that they are a revisal of early Christianity. Marcionism, Marinism, Sethism etc.