Interesting I have a few Catholic bibles with their commentary and they usually explain Adam was the first man WITH A SOUL. Humans evolved. The flood was localized etc.
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Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real (shows the way to JWs?)
by exWTslave inpope thus admits that every verse of the bible is not literally inspired.
it is like a story that is built to awaken the readers to some principles (not to educate the readers the historicity with all the minute details).. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html.
if gb is wise enough, they can come out of the mess they have gone into, making use of this opportunity that pope has opened saying bible is not to be taken literally.
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The story of the girl sacrificed at the temple?
by Crazyguy ini'm sorry i don't remember her name but in the story her father promises god the first from his house would be sacraficed.
as many know here she was indeed killed and not just given over to temple service.
proving this to a jw would be hard, but i'm wondering was there ever a mention of woman being used at the temple other then when the temple was also a place for asherah worship?
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She was killed in the story.
Most of Judges is stories of northern heros which were likely written during the exile. The Deuteronomist law code condemned child sacrafice but the author of these stories (Often called E) loved them. The Atories of Abraham and Isaac amoung others parallels this.
Exodus 12 had God demanding the firstborn son.
The tradition was well known... See Micah 6:6-8
Was there a Gileadite who sacraficed his daughter in an oath to a deity after fighting the Ammonites? I would say this sadly happened many times.
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What do Mark, Luke, and Paul all have in common?
by Coded Logic inaccording to scripture, none of them ever met jesus.
i was a jw for 20 years and i never knew this!
i thought they were all apostles!
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What do they all have in common? None of them likely existed in my opinion.
However the WT will claim Mark did know Jesus since he's the streaker running around when Jesus was arrested lol.
Mark 14:50-552 NWT
50 And they all abandoned him and fled.+ 51 However, a certain young man wearing only a fine linen garment over his naked body began to follow him nearby, and they tried to seize him, 52 but he left his linen garment behind and got away naked.*
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Glory of CREATOR is that
by exWTslave inglory of creator is that he has given us life and life support systems to enjoy the life to the full.
yet he doesnt want any glory for that nor thanks from ushence he remains away.
that means his life (or style of functioning) is the message (making all communicationoral or written unnecessary).
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The singularity existed befoe the big bang? Where do you get this?
I think you need to read modern physics not physics of 50 -70 years ago. Quantum mechanics actually explains that the universe came from nothing out of necessity!
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Was the Biblical Canon Directed by God?
by Chris Tann inthis is a question a sincere christian may agonize over after learning that some books of the bible were rejected by certain early christian groups,while other books that did not make the canon were accepted.
also,when one realizes that so called inspired writers of the greek scriptures quote from apocrypha,that most christians reject today,one wonders if these writings that include these quotes should even be in the bible.. it is true that when it comes to the christian greek scriptures the canon has been closed for many centuries.
also, these books have been accepted by christians ever since the second,perhaps first,century.
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Chris Tann:
I must have misunderstood this line: " It is true that when it comes to the Christian Greek scriptures the canon has been closed for many centuries. Also, these books have been accepted by Christians ever since the second,perhaps first,century. "
BTW Hebrews alluds to 2 Maccabees and Jude to the Book of Enoch and the Apocylapse of Moses. Revelation's comoslogy is based on the Book of Enoch. (The BOE gives a very detailed description of the Jewish Universe)
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Was the Biblical Canon Directed by God?
by Chris Tann inthis is a question a sincere christian may agonize over after learning that some books of the bible were rejected by certain early christian groups,while other books that did not make the canon were accepted.
also,when one realizes that so called inspired writers of the greek scriptures quote from apocrypha,that most christians reject today,one wonders if these writings that include these quotes should even be in the bible.. it is true that when it comes to the christian greek scriptures the canon has been closed for many centuries.
also, these books have been accepted by christians ever since the second,perhaps first,century.
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I need to comment. The orginal post assumes that the 27 books were widely accepted in the second century. BIG FALSEHOOD!
Most of the 27 books were not even known!
The earliest gospel (out of the four) we have evidence for is a piece of John and it is around 125 or so. (could be earlier but not much)
The earliest NT canon did contain a gospel. 'The Gospel of the Lord'. It was a proto-Luke... meaning is predated Luke... when was this? 140....
Also in that concon were 10 so called letters of Paul (Ephesians originally was called ''To the Laodacians' and all of the 'Pauline letters' are proto-letters. Very gnostic. (The Pastorials we have no evidence for until tha very late second century.)
The have no evidence for Matthew Mark or Luke until the mid second century. (Later for Luke) and the referances in Mark 13, Matthew 24, Luke 21 all refer not to 70ce but to the Jewsish revolt in 136ce.
The Didache was originally dated to the early second century and if so that text plus the Gospel to the Hebrews made up some of the material unique to Matthew (As well as oral traditions)
The only exception I could make to this is Revelation. Parts of it are clearly first century but this is one of the most edited books in the NT.
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Did Josephus believe in Jesus as The Christ?
by opusdei1972 inhere is the questioned josephus' text :.
now, there was about this time jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful worksa teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure.
he drew over to him both many of the jews, and many of the gentiles.
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The entire paragraph about Jesus breaks his line of thought... it is an early addition. Josephus never wrote any of that.
Read the previous paragraphs and the folowing paragraphs in Antiquties.... the Jesus mention was added likely in the third or fourth century ...
INDEED Joosephus did write about James, the borther of Jesus, who was killed BUT....
The Jesus mentioned is the high priest in Jerusalem....
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Sleep Paralysis - YOUR EXPERIENCES
by Black Man inso what have been your experiences with sleep paralysis?
any connection to astral projection?
this has interested me recently as i used to have sleep paralysis quite often years ago.
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I use this all the time.
It's a normal stae the body enters at REM sleep. Waking up in this state while not common is not dangerous at all. However since you main chest muscles are paralyzed it feels as if something is on top of you. Also at this point you are still in REM state even if not asleep. You can hallucinate.
To get out of it I have two recommondations:
1. Keep you eyes closed ... think of a place you want to be.. You might end up there in a lucid dream. This is what I do and I induce sleep paralysis often for lucid dreams.
2. one thing you can control in SP is your breathing. Breathe deeply, then shallow... vary it often... in a few seconds your brain will realize you are awake and end the paralysis.
As for Astral Projection i have not tried it yet... but I have an open mind.
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Thanksgiving...
by HowTheBibleWasCreated incolumbus day in the us is thanksgiving in canada.
nowpersonally i find this stupid and mornic since the tradion beihind the festival goes back to us ancestry bu so be it... (the us pbserves this a month later).
the tradition is turkey, cranberries (why ?
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IN BC I get paid to saty home lol on Monday... two hours from now about...
As talesin says Canadian adopted a festival of Americans ... not surprising... borders were quite fluid before 1812...
It's still an ancein harvest festival like almost every culture in temperate zones celebrated...
Halloween's origins are darker though and are for another post
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Thanksgiving...
by HowTheBibleWasCreated incolumbus day in the us is thanksgiving in canada.
nowpersonally i find this stupid and mornic since the tradion beihind the festival goes back to us ancestry bu so be it... (the us pbserves this a month later).
the tradition is turkey, cranberries (why ?
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BTW ot to put down and icon but I think of Christopher Culumbus as in the same catagory as Hitler and Nepoleon... Evern worse in ways...
1. He never set out to prove the world round
2. He spread his viruses up and down the New World.
3. He was a big fool in navigation.
4. He was extremly prideful.
5. He hated native peoples. (He was probably the one that first called then 'Indians' His own delusion.)
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