1. There is no such thing as a big bounce. The Universe is aout to enter a state of accelerated expansion.
2. What is Soma? A mythical pant. Yes I read a few Vedas too.
3. The Veda do not teach god but GODS.
the vedas are the core sacred texts for the people of the east.
generally the vedas are to the east as the hebrew scriptures are to the west.
supporters of the bible, boast of it's scientific accuracy,prophetic accuracy & general infallibility.
1. There is no such thing as a big bounce. The Universe is aout to enter a state of accelerated expansion.
2. What is Soma? A mythical pant. Yes I read a few Vedas too.
3. The Veda do not teach god but GODS.
i have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
Well suppose I propound to you that there is a teapot in orbit between Mars and Jupiter. I belive it. Now none of our telescopes can see it but I belive it. I tell my children, evangelize Soon millions belive in the teapot and scriptures are written. Then you come along and ask for proof of our teapot. Our proof is faith... after all you can't DISPROVE the teapot....
Replace teapot with god.
BTW Not my idea. This came from a guy named Russel.
hi folks.
new here, and growing weary of finding an e-text version of one of the earlier releases of the new world translation.
i have searched high and low, and for some reason, it is as if it does not exist.. i'm catholic, but for research purposes and as a courtesy to jws, i've put the 1984 and the 2013 versions in a database format for e-sword (e-sword.net).
based on information to be found at: http://www.csicop.org/si/show/when_dont_the_highly_educated_believe_in_evolution_the_bible_believers_effe/.
the bible-believers effect.
those who believe the bible is the word of god (bible believers) and those who dont believe the bible is the word of god (bible nonbelievers) differ in their beliefs that humans evolved from earlier species of animals.
If we are dealing with the USA I would say yes. 60% of Americans recently said evolution is false.
Now religion in itself is not bad if we are talking Buddiism, Taoism etc. Christianity however forces you to accept things that simply can be proven false scientifically.
july 23, 2015 at 3:35 pm.
i have just read this from berean pickets in the comment section.
it's quite a leap.
i have noted that the main problem for those who are seduced by the watchtower society is their ignorance about the bible itself.
people who believe that the bible is the word of god usually ignore the studies on textual criticism and how scientific criteria forbid absurd stories like that of the global flood.
so, i strongly believe that students in schools need at least an obligatory course on "the bible" through the point of view of science and the textual criticism.
I will respond to the original topic:
That is my goal. I respect the bible and actually love the texts.. but as a secularist... People need to know why it says what it does.
sure they have embraced the internet and electronic media etc.
by their science is so far off it's sad ...but understandable.. the wt published several articles in the past dealing with reletivity etc.
yes great....100 years old science today.. where are the quantum mechanic articles?
Sure they have embraced the internet and electronic media etc. By their science is so far off it's sad ...but UNDERSTANDABLE.
The WT published several articles in the past dealing with reletivity etc. Yes great....100 years old science today.
Where are the quantum mechanic articles? Nothing... none... nadda.... My prediction... there never will be...
Quantum theory undermines EVERYTHING about reality. The WT would be forced to admit Jehovah is an undecided, hopeless juggler. Jesus (Who the WT says created everything as a master worker) would no longer be the 'way' or the 'truth' '. He would be an uncertainty. Not only that this mysterious Holy Spirit would never work anyway.
I should add there are two newer theories that relate somewhat to quantum mechanics:
1. The Multi-verse theory (Becoming mainstream in science)
Jesus died once for all time..... really.... how many times did he die once for all times. How many did did Adam take or not take a fruit.
2. The Holographic Universe (Not yet mainstream but moving up)
This theory disproves our very existance and the only possiblity of God is as a Black Hole.
Do you want to remain in a religion that MUST reject any science done in the last 60 years or so.
That includes Genetics as well.
sometimes i get a strong curiosity to start dabbling into other religions, other faiths, you know?
really different ones such as islam, judaism, hinduism, etc.. has anyone here looked into something else?
has your spirituality been satisfied by any other than christianity?.
I'm an atheist however I lean towards taoism and quantum mysticism...I'm short Buddism has some great wisdom as well.
I'm opne to religion IF it's based on wisdom.... not myth... eliminate the myths from the eastern religions and you are left to explore
i downloaed a few audiobooks awhile ago and finally tried foundation by isaac asmiov... .
not only was the story very good (my opinon)but as i go to part 3 i realized the religion created in the book was very very similar to what i know.. 1. a governing body (haring ) .
2. a religion based on knowledge (john 17:3 is quoted often but remember ... only the gb really understands it).
I downloaed a few audiobooks awhile ago and finally tried Foundation by Isaac Asmiov...
Not only was the story very good (my opinon)but as I go to part 3 I realized the religion created in the book was very very similar to what I know.
1. A governing body (Haring )
2. A religion based on Knowledge (John 17:3 is quoted often but remember ... only the GB really understands it)
3. Technology is revealed over time to the other planets (Well thats what the GB does... reveals knowledge as they call it, over time when they want to.
4. The book has travelling priests send by Foundation to influence other planets. (Well circuit overseers)
5. The priests know the religin is false but force themselves to belive it. (Thus the elders)
6. The whole idea behind this book is that the Foundation (and it's sister city - later books) will rebuild humanity after a great fall... (Welll JWs teach this exactly)
There are other minor point. but this was very mind boggeling how close the WT comes to this book (Serries actually)
i have some quotes from the new world bible from 2 cor 11&12 read them and give us your prognosis, he definitely thought very highly of himself, his vision that he received from the unconscious and inflated his ego for sure.
i'm sure this guy is over the top in his exaggerations about what he did and didn't do probably lots of denial about some of his own fraud being projected onto his boogie man rivals he sarcastically calls superfine apostles.. for i consider that i have not proved inferior to your superfine apostles in a single thing.+ 6 but even if i am unskilled in speech,+ i certainly am not in knowledge; indeed we made it clear to you in every way and in everything.....12 but what i am doing i will continue to do,+ in order to eliminate the pretext of those who are wanting a basis* for being found equal to us in the things* about which they boast.
13 for such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of christ.+ 14 and no wonder, for satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light.+ 15 it is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness.
Simon magus is mentioned by Josephus...
As to Paul existance try this: http://www.egodeath.com/TheFabricatedPaul.htm