Posts by HowTheBibleWasCreated

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I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Thanks for the info all.

Avts5: I'm not a lover of god. I'm an atheist.

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I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

HowTheBibleWasCreated

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I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Well update. I have talked to my wife about my doubts (Not really doubts... I know what the facts are) and she more feels sorry for me 'having no hope'... but I told her I won't change her views unless she wants me too...

She took it all well and there is no real problem. I'm still trapped into going to meeting/service for now... but I feel less pressure.

However I still plan to meet with the elders... I don;t care as much for the outcome now she already knows. I just want to pin them down lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RLOj1tmkQg&index=3&list=PLfbxB0kKayCSZ19X7kmzCwVRE5N44EFn0

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Time Machine

by HB in

caveat 1: those who believe jesus is truly the son of god may wish to avoid this post.

although my thoughts are only proposed for mild amusement and interest and in no way intended to offend, for some, the concept behind the idea may be an affront to preciously held beliefs.

if that’s likely to be the case, kindly just don’t read.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I would take a copy of the New Testament in Greek and expose Jesus to Pilate long before he got popular.

This is of course assuming Jesus existed.

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Biblical clues to what God the Jews worshipped

by Crazyguy in

recently there is a royal bulla that was found in jerusalem, that of the judean king hezekiah on it was two egyptian ankhs and a wings sun disk.

there have been other artifacts found with that of the egyptian scarab beatle which relates to sun worship.

so does the bible give any clues to the god of the jews?.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Moses on an ass in YHWH's temple http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/2027-ass-worship

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Biblical clues to what God the Jews worshipped

by Crazyguy in

recently there is a royal bulla that was found in jerusalem, that of the judean king hezekiah on it was two egyptian ankhs and a wings sun disk.

there have been other artifacts found with that of the egyptian scarab beatle which relates to sun worship.

so does the bible give any clues to the god of the jews?.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Some likely did worship Egyptian gods. The Omrides worshipped Yhwh ...despite what the book of Kings tells us. But yhwh was one on the 70 sons of El and likely came from south of Edom...prehaps near Egypt.

Yes the Iao issue is easy.... before the Hasmoeon dynesty I dont think there was any issue whose god you worshipped. That one family of priests took control of religion.

We know certian houses in Israel and Judah in pre exilic timnes worshipped yhwh but not as anymore then a war god.

In the Persian era yhwh was worshipped however likely zorastrainism contributed to monotheism becoming norm.

The hellenistic era prior to 150 bce was a mixed bag likely. For instance the was astatue of moses on an ass in the temple in 200bce lol

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Did you know that Satan bump nesties with Eve.

by James Mixon in

some christians explanation for evil in the world.

i came across this "serpent seed".. it claims that cain was the offspring of eve and the talking serpent (sorry i'm lmao while.

writing this) that christians much later identified as satan.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Actually the theory of Cain being the sephant's son is as old as the Johannie Christianity.... 1 John claims Cain was 'from the wicked one'

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The book of Ruth... destroys the bible

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

lets pretend two things:.

1. god (yhwh) exists.

2. the bible is his word.. now we follow genesis to judges ok... judges resets at chaper 17-21 but for the purposes od this posts lets ignore that.... ruth we are told lives in the time of the judges... ok no problem/ until the end.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Lets pretend two things:

1. God (YHWH) exists

2. The bible is his word.

Now we follow Genesis to Judges ok... Judges resets at chaper 17-21 but for the purposes od this posts lets ignore that...

Ruth we are told lives in the time of the judges... Ok no problem/ Until the end. She marries Boaz... Obed... Jesse David... Still just reading Genesis to Ruth we have no problem really... In fact>>>

Jews have few problems wiih the book of Ruth.

Christians do, including JWs, because of Matthew....

Matthew claims Ruth marries Boaz the son of Salmon who married Rahab. Rahab the whore (aww... does that word shock you... it's in the bible :p)

Anyway this places Ruth only one generation from the conquest. (under Joshua)... the problem is she the great grandmother of David...

Conquest: 1473-1467BCE

David born 1107 BCE

This is WT Chronology and represents 360 years. This is on average 180 years for obed and Jesse to have children. But Joshua lives 110 years and David 70... that theory dies quickly.

If Matthews genology is bad Jesus is not Shiloh ....

If Ruth is bad... who was David?

you cant have both

This BTW is very light biblical critiism... very very light...

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Sorry to bust anyone's bubble but the "bible" was written by misogynist desert nomads attempting to explain life

by park ave boy in

i remember growing up preparing for the number 2 talk and reading over the verses.

one time i had a chapter in joshua to read.

i started reading and i was like "wtf?

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I dealt with lot and his daughter recently. This is a story made to explain the Ammonites and Moabites as bastards... in the story the women are not portrayed as 'bad'... they truly believe YHWH desttroyed everyone but them so their acts was self preservation of humanity... in the story. It is the work of a Jewish Hellenist i beive.. Yes Samson is modeled after Hercules but you already knew that

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Beards

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have a beard.

i spend a month on vacation with no worry from the congregation overseas of course.

i grew a full beard now and with glasses i finally have posted my picture on facebook og me... next to half life 2 cover showing i look like gordan freeman lol.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Well is showed up for the meeting today... no on commented except one elder who I knew half m y life... he said: You have fungus on you face.. Since he is bald naturally I simply said yes and you have no hair... we had a laugh an d I used a quick comment. I have eczema and mentioned my beard hided it... he nodded and left... On other brother although not commenting on my beard mentioned I looked younger...okauy