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  Convention invitations

  by dothemath in

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  so everyone is supposed to get all excited about the invitation work starting tomorrow, according to the announcement from the platform.. maybe this makes sense if you're giving out invitations in the city where the convention is, but what if you're many hours away?.

  a huge part of western canada is scheduled to attend edmonton alberta this july.

  so how does that go over giving out invitations in winnipeg, about a 13 hour drive(that's just driving time).. i know some are actually planning on flying there, so i can't see getting excited about getting the public to make the trek.. i was curious how this is going over in other areas?.

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  It keeps you busy. Meanwhile they continue undercover..
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  Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?

  by minimus in

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  i still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.

  what about you?.

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  I agree with freedom of religion.. In you own home. (However sexual or physical abuse of children etc are exceptions to that.) But in the world here... no churches... None.. nada.. let them meet shall groups in home.

  If they express an anti-gay or anti g=-government phrase they should be examined or banned as Russia thankfully has doe.
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  Creation account is the creation of Moses

  by venus in

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  the word `intelligence' [from inter, “between” + legere, “ to read”] would mean ‘discern things as though reading in between the lines.

  now read in between the lines of what moses wrote; his favored and frequent statement is this: ‘obedience to god means blessings, and disobedience means maledictions.’ (deut 28:1-68; 30:15-18) let us try to discern his motive behind this statement.. .

  when moses wanted to present 10 commandments and other laws, he naturally wanted to prepare the israelites with a mind-set that ‘we must obey god, otherwise it is problem for us.’ the best way for this was to modify a well-known story of fall from other cultures.

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  The creation accounts differ. Genesis 1:1-2:4a is a sabbatical version that is arranged by a logical person that probably had a form of autism. (Likely this version continues through being the P source. A sick mind though)

  Genesis 2:4b-5 is a separate account. Thiis Adam and Eve and Eden account dates very very early. before a mythical Moses. Thes story is the later half of tablet 11 of Gilgamesh. This text here might be as early as 1750BCE though I doubt it. In fact the text quotes word per word from the Epic in Genesis 8-9 when talking about the rainbow. Likely the version in Genesis is from Berrosus of the 4th or 3rd century BCE.

  As for Moses he is a mythical figure based on Chanceller Bay of 1200 BCE
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  A woman wearing a head covering in subjugation of men - absolutely mental

  by jambon1 in

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  how did they ever get away with that and how does it go down now, in today's society?.

  its fucking mental.

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  These reason this exists in JWs and other christian groups is because it's in 1 Corinthians 11. (However may I point of the 'covering' described refers to a woman's hair as show by the context and culture of the text.
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  Going "Hollywood" not helping!

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  going “hollywood” hasn’t seemed to help build any enthusiasm for the wtbts.

  think about it, jw’s now have their own studio to make videos and cartoons.

  the ‘kingdom’ dirges (songs) have received a makeover to a bit more modern tunes.

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  There movie I think are decent... the one from the convention this year has some attractive girls and a special effects of a woman being turned to salt.

  Last year was the amazing angel (CGI) and the 300 style movie of Hezekiah.

  Hey they are ok.. We need more sex and violence though to be realistic... the society needs to watch the Spartacus series...lol
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  What Happens If the JW Beard Policy Stumbles a Person

  by Cold Steel in

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  some of the videos on youtube really make the beard policy look ridiculous.

  i wondered what would happen if the jw beard policy caused someone to stumble?

  jesus most likely wore a beard, and charles taze russell had a beard.

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  First the wt article posted clearly leaves beards as a conscience issue in many area. Fact is where I live doctors and professors have beards. Half or working men have beards. These are not bad people these are the best im thinking of.

  Thus here 1 ms has a beard and beards are allowed for the CLAM meetings on the stage.

  I have eczema on my face that plain looks bad and itches like crazy.. I have found my beard corers it. I'm only at a meeting maybe 2 or 3 times a month though now. NO ONE cares that I have a beard.... In fact i gave a bible reading with it just to piss of old F**ks.. 2 months ago. (Stumbled.. good... The mythical Weezus stumbled weak minded people too in John 6 )

  Fact is the society has a better argument for the 'dresses' African brothers wear... they could use 1 Corinthians 11/... but do they... ope... they are Hypocrites just like all Christianity
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  What is behind your choice of forum user name?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

  there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

  i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

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  Name of my youtube channel.. almost..HowTheBibleWasMade
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  An early Hellenistic fable in the bible

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

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  jps (1917)... the trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive-tree: reign thou over us.

  and the trees said unto the vine: come thou, and reign over us.

  then said all the trees unto the bramble: come thou, and reign over us.

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  As most here know I am a bible minimalist. Not by choice. From several years of study and examining evidence and rejecting theories I previously thought valid I was forced to admit that the historical books of the Hebrew Bible date between 330-80 BCE

  The earliest is likely is Jewish version of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fir_and_the_Bramble

  Aesop (likely a fictional person) and his fables were well know and are NOT children's literature. They were originally philosophical texts.

  But where is the bible are they?

  Isaiah 5: 1-6 is often cited as is the obvious 2 Kings 14:9

  However a more better parallel to the Greek fables is hidden is a disgusting narrative of Judges 9.

  JPS (1917)..

  The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive-tree: Reign thou over us. But the olive-tree said unto them: Should I leave my fatness, seeing that by me they honour God and man, and go to hold sway over the trees? And the trees said to the fig-tree: Come thou, and reign over us. But the fig-tree said unto them: Should I leave my sweetness, and my good fruitage, and go to hold sway over the trees? And the trees said unto the vine: Come thou, and reign over us. And the vine said unto them: Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to hold sway over the trees? Then said all the trees unto the bramble: Come thou, and reign over us. And the bramble said unto the trees: If in truth ye anoint me king over you, then come and take refuge in my shadow; and if not, let fire come out of the bramble, and devour the cedars of Lebanon

  Note 2 Kings 14:9 has a simpler version of this: 'The thistle that was in Lebanon sent to the cedar that was in Lebanon, saying: Give thy daughter to my son to wife; and there passed by the wild beasts that were in Lebanon, and trod down the thistle.

  These are versions of Greek fables that have been inserted in 'historical narratives' .
  
  
  
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  48% Capacity at Kingdom Halls - A post on reddit

  by berrygerry in

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  there was a letter read this week, followed by a talk about all the changes that are coming in the next couple of months regarding merging congregations in the area (va/md/dc) - the letter said that the kh's in the area are only being filled to 48% capacity.

  this was music to my ears as i have noticed the decline in attendance in all the neighboring congregations.

  they will sell some kingdom halls and merge some congregations.

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  Many are 'fence-sitters' as the realize the 'truth' doesn't add up
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  The Ultimate Conversion

  by Etude in

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  one thing that surprised me shortly after joining this site was the number of individuals who, after experiencing the deception of being a jw and the hypocrisy of the “truth”, switched to being catholic or “born-again” evangelists.

  it seemed to me like jumping from the hot pan into the fire.. i don’t want to piss anyone off for his or her choices.

  i feel everyone is free to believe what they may.

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  Exactly what I have said here for awhile. If you leave JWs and become a 'christian' you are just a hypocrite in my opinion. Once science is shown debunking Christianity why stay?... to be a fool perhaps?... Is that what the WT does to people?.

  I am thankful that most on here are non believers and if you must be spiritual (like me) try Buddhism or naturalism...