Posts by HowTheBibleWasCreated

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JDub Beer

by HappyDad in

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just thought i'd put this out there.

this is from a brewery in sarasota, florida..

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That would make my stomach sick. Mint in beer ugh.

I prefer Faxe (Danish) or Kurin (Japanese)

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More Mary Martha and Lazarus

by peacefulpete in

in a previous thread discussing the rich man and lazarus parable in luke, the relationship of this parable to the lazarus resurrection story arose.

as i said in that thread i'm pretty convinced that the writer of john fleshed out this character in the rich man& lazarus parable into a narrative featuring a man named lazarus.

the reasons essentially are:.

For point one: Luke 16 and John 11 are to similar.For point 2:I agreeFor point 3 I agree.I have not yet investigated the army of Marys in the gospels. There are almost too many to count. However if John is first (As I have so far been able to place it) the two sister are repeated only in Luke with the dumbest parable of the one working and the other listening. This to me suggests Marcionite origin following John. around 120 CE maybe.
The other two gospels are trash in my opinion. Mark is an apocalyptical work that cares not about previous stories and moves through then with such speed that they lack any meaning. Matthew is a good gospel but it should be labeled 'the Jewish Gospel against the Gnostics'. These two do make Martha and Mary fuse together and possible other Mary's too. The point you make has again added another argument for my second century origin of the gospels.

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More Mary Martha and Lazarus

by peacefulpete in

in a previous thread discussing the rich man and lazarus parable in luke, the relationship of this parable to the lazarus resurrection story arose.

as i said in that thread i'm pretty convinced that the writer of john fleshed out this character in the rich man& lazarus parable into a narrative featuring a man named lazarus.

the reasons essentially are:.

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Joen I would like to see where the old testament prophecies of Jesus are fulfilled in John. See my hypothesis for the NT (which is months away in my book) is Marcionite priority. However I believe the Gospel of John is also Gnostic and predates the synoptics. I have noted reading John that although Jesus is defiantly the messiah to the Jews and was indeed prophesied in the Hebrew Bible I think his 'father' was not YHWH. I'm interested in hearing your comments.

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Jehovah`s witnesses not the only religion GOD is using now ?

by smiddy3 in

when confronted with angus stewart’s blunt question “do you see yourselves as jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth?” the answer that came from jackson’s lips was astounding.. “that i think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using.

the scriptures clearly show that someone can act in harmony with god’s spirit in giving comfort and help in the congregations, but if i could just clarify a little, going back to matthew 24, clearly, jesus said that in the last days ‐ and jehovah’s witnesses believe these are the last days ‐ there would be a slave, a group of persons who would have responsibility to care for the spiritual food.

so inthat respect, we view ourselves as trying to fulfill that role.”.

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Did anyone notice that when Jackson was asked what Jesus would think about a certain verse he answered: "I hope to ask him someday".

Uh.... WTF.. This is a man that speaks with Jesus along with the other 7. What did he just do?. He reveled he can't speak to Jesus.

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More Mary Martha and Lazarus

by peacefulpete in

in a previous thread discussing the rich man and lazarus parable in luke, the relationship of this parable to the lazarus resurrection story arose.

as i said in that thread i'm pretty convinced that the writer of john fleshed out this character in the rich man& lazarus parable into a narrative featuring a man named lazarus.

the reasons essentially are:.

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I disagree.. I believe John predates the synoptic gospels. The next gospel I believe was 'The Gospel of the Lord' a predecessor to Luke. In chapter 16 of Luke is the rich man and Lazarus. Note this post dates John. The author assumes Lazarus died and has the rich man beg for him to return. Also the mention of five brothers fits a verse in John 11 about men who wanted to kill Lazarus.

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Jehovah`s witnesses not the only religion GOD is using now ?

by smiddy3 in

when confronted with angus stewart’s blunt question “do you see yourselves as jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth?” the answer that came from jackson’s lips was astounding.. “that i think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using.

the scriptures clearly show that someone can act in harmony with god’s spirit in giving comfort and help in the congregations, but if i could just clarify a little, going back to matthew 24, clearly, jesus said that in the last days ‐ and jehovah’s witnesses believe these are the last days ‐ there would be a slave, a group of persons who would have responsibility to care for the spiritual food.

so inthat respect, we view ourselves as trying to fulfill that role.”.

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But now it's public record and if a JW who is PIMO is asked this question they can simply respond :"I agree with what GB member GJ said when he said^^^^"

Unless the elders want to accuse Jackson of perjury they would have to find the quote.

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If you leave the WT and don’t get vaccinated, you will still have the virus and keep getting sick

by pistolpete in

so the past couple of years, i’ve read several stories about jws who left the organization at an early age because they knew something wasn’t right------but they never bothered to research the religion.

there was this feeling that the watchtower was not god’s only channel.

so they left at an early age.

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I disagree completely with the original post. All I needed was to see evolution was factual 100% and no more WT doctrine or bible. Done

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Meetings

by pontoon in

so remember how assembling together is a command and no man or government can stop us, even if it means going 'underground', even if means being arrested, jailed, beat....can't stop us from assembling together----until covid.

now it's "false regligion" fighting for their constitutional right to meet together while the jws seem to be perefectly happy zooming their lives away..

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It boggles my mind why they need khs. I mean tax payments every year. Why?. Use zoom. I doubt they will need khs next year

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how do spouse's treat their partners if they leave the cult?

by mickbobcat in

so i was fortunate enough to have a wife that listened and saw what i was saying was true and that the cult is bs.

but i wonder how bad it is in a relationship that one goes out of the cult and the other stays in.

i can see that being a real issue for a marriage.

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My wife after my being inactive 3 years and irregular 7 has somewhat accepted my beliefs or lack of. When Im staying with her family in the philippines I will at times attend a meeting. But the good news is I see in the younger generation of my neices the streak of rebellion. If only someone would write a book for. Jws to show them the bible is not God's word.... Oh wait. That's what I'm doing 😂😜 for them

Ny wife and I have a good relationship outside jws. I told my wife I'm learning tai chi over Internet in morning and. She accepted it

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What useful piece of literature have the JW produced?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

seeing on another post here about former jws throwing away literature.

i am curious as to the various opinions on there value.. for me i have been inactive for 3 years almost 4. i still have alot of books and of course all their bibles ever produced (except a few from the 1800s.).

in my opinion i think there are four books the jws produced that are useful:.

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Beth's list:

Proclaimers Book. Why? I have found so many holes in this book as for as witness history goes.

Live Forever Book - original printing. Yeah the pictures are funny. Especially the one with the French model and the demons. Not useful other then to show the idea of the generation ending in the 1980s..

Reasoning From the Scriptures. Yes this one is good for JW doctrine. I personally hated this book.

Revelation Climax - original printing.( but actually any copy will do) WTF... Nuff said

My Book of Bible Stories - original printing (again any copy will do) I learned to read from the audio of this played along to the book. But this book is a sad look at horror stories.