I believe in a sort of pantheistic life after death. Sort of Quamtum Balance. However:
Before you were born ... you weren;t here. You didn't worry about it then
When you die you re not here ... You wont worry then
mortality sucks.
i dont know why this is such a revelatio to me.
i a. not confident to blame it o my jw upbringing.
I believe in a sort of pantheistic life after death. Sort of Quamtum Balance. However:
Before you were born ... you weren;t here. You didn't worry about it then
When you die you re not here ... You wont worry then
do they actually believe that if they tell you that you are "missed", that you will desire to return to the sheepfold?
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Some of us are still in for family.
Also I want to be here in September-Occtober to watch it crumble.
info from someone at the regional convention:.
(sorry about the format).
matthew 6:33 keep on seeking first the kingdom.
F**k are thses morons idiots?
2 Corinthians 12 1-5 follows chapter 11 where 'Paul' is taking the role of a 'madman'. READ THE WHOLE THING! He is bragging. The 'man in paradise' is himself and this had a literatry relation to 1 Corinthians 15... his own revelation of Christ.
The paradise concept is from the Book of Enoch.
The WT has fools making this up.
i really can't wrap my head around how people can still consider god loving with such atrocious biblical accounts such as, 1 samuel 15, (god ordering the slaughter of amelikite baby's and children) 2nd kings 2, forgot the verses (god sending bears to maul 42 children) and many others.have you ever asked a witness or anyone elsewhat they think about these accounts?
what was their response?
i'd love to ask one, but unfortunately i'm still physically in the cult and i wouldn't want to raise any suspicions.
The WT is beyond stupid. Samson in Hebrews 11 is considered a man of faith.
Gamglimg
Vengenge
Lying
Unsanitary food practices
Marriage outside the faith
Animal cruelty
Deliberate murder to avoid payment of gambling debt
Self-defense which turn into murder 1000 men using a jawbone (If he killed a few in self defense thats one thing but after a few guys the others would have been running and he would have been chasing)
Suicide bombing (sort of)
I asked an elder what he thought and his answer was: "If your were and Israelite you would have been cheering!" This of course ignores the facts of chapter 15 where his own people betray him. It also shows a low sense of JW morality.
Now I find Samson story easy since I know it came from the Hercules story.
i personally believe moses was largely or entirely mythical.
is because much of his biography, if not most of it, is tied to events.
that never happened, meaning that a historical moses could not .
One more oddity and it's rather shocking is those two northern prophets of the 8th century are Amos and Hosea.
A-mos<<<< Mos?
And Hosea is very close to Hoshea // Numbers 13:16- And Moses called Hoshea the son of Nun Joshua.
Hosea starts preaching right after Amos.
i really can't wrap my head around how people can still consider god loving with such atrocious biblical accounts such as, 1 samuel 15, (god ordering the slaughter of amelikite baby's and children) 2nd kings 2, forgot the verses (god sending bears to maul 42 children) and many others.have you ever asked a witness or anyone elsewhat they think about these accounts?
what was their response?
i'd love to ask one, but unfortunately i'm still physically in the cult and i wouldn't want to raise any suspicions.
I have put forth the argument that while every teenager should read the bible ..like shakespeare or plato etc Education and Culture>>> Children should not read it!
Here is my playlist why not and i've just started. I haven't even gotten to Numbers 31 yet. lol
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfbxB0kKayCSW-NVdDGtGWHN83MSGFDmi
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please join with me, and celebrate the 30th anniversary of the classic wt with the front cover which boldly proclaimed that the generation of 1914 would never pass away.. the cover date of the that wt is infact this very day so let us raise a glass to this clear sign they have god's backing:.
in this the 100th anniversary of our lords return (invisibly of course brothers) it is a fine and appropriate thing to do..
That sad part is the next date they will float around is 2034. 1914+120 years or 2033 Hosea 6:2 as 33 CE +2000 years
funny how well that goes together.. interesting that several months ago people were fearful to bring their pc tablets to the hall for fear that others would judge them for their "showy display" now to see most everyone, even the tikes, with a tablet.
i can hear those little tykes now with the veruca salt voice of the old willy wonka movie, "daddy, i want a new ipad.
get me an ipad daddy!
Yeah but it is so easy to play candy crush at the meetings now lol
found in 2000 with a group of antiquity smugglers this bible contains the gospel of barnabas according to the report in the national turk.. written in aramaic this gospel account was omitted by the church during the period of the council of nicea.. the text maintains a story similar to islam regarding jesus being a great prophet.. is has a reported value of $28million and is said to be in the museum of ankara.. http://moorishharem.com/culture-detail/1500-year-old-bible-that-jesus-christ-was-not-crucified-vatican-in-awe/.
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This text is 100% Gnostic and 100% unreliable for anything to do with a 'historical Jesus' assuming he existed.
over the next five years we will be reading through the book again and commenting at the highlights.
here are some jewels to comment on in the next few years:.
this year:.
Over the next five years we will be reading through the book again and commenting at the highlights. Here are some jewels to comment on in the next few years:
This year:
Leviticus 17: 14 For the life* of every sort of flesh is its blood, because the life* is in it. Consequently, I said to the Israelites: “You must not eat the blood of any sort of flesh because the life* of every sort of flesh is its blood. Anyone eating it will be cut off.”*+ 15 If anyone,* whether a native or a foreigner, eats an animal found dead or one torn by a wild animal,+ he must then wash his garments and bathe in water and be unclean until the evening;+ then he will be clean. 16 But if he does not wash them and does not bathe himself,* he will answer for his error.’”+
Make and off comment on blood transfusions that is contrary to th WT but agrees with this scripture. Like for instance taking a shower after receiving blood lol.
Numbers 22 (Use the 1984 version for this)
27 When the ass got to see Jehovah’s angel she now lay down under Ba′laam; so that Ba′laam’s anger blazed,+ and he kept beating the ass with his staff.
Make a comment about how this means we should spank our childrens butts!
Next year:
Switch the jw library program to the KJV for this:
1 Kings 14: 10 Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel, and will take away the remnant of the house of Jeroboam, as a man taketh away dung, till it be all gone.
Here are your comments>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vgE1vKAWaY&list=PLfbxB0kKayCT7OvEV38fSPAFjlPHBdq0w&index=19
2 Kings 2: 23 He went up from there to Beth′el. As he was going along the way, some young boys came out from the city and began to jeer at him,+ and they kept saying to him: “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” 24 Finally he turned around and looked at them and cursed them in the name of Jehovah. Then two she-bears+ came out of the forest and tore 42 of the children to pieces.+ 25 He kept going from there to Mount Car′mel,+ and from there he returned to Sa·mar′i·a.
Mention how Jehovah LOVINGLY protects bald people from insults.
Nehemiah 13: 23 In those days I also saw Jews who had married* Ash′dod·ite,+ Am′mon·ite, and Mo′ab·ite+ women.+24 Half of their sons were speaking Ash′dod·ite and the language of the different peoples, but none of them knew how to speak the language of the Jews. 25 So I reprimanded them and called down a curse on them and struck some of the men+ and pulled out their hair and made them swear by God: “You should not give your daughters to their sons, and you should not accept any of their daughters for your sons or yourselves.+ 26 Was it not because of these that King Sol′o·mon of Israel sinned?
Mention what a FINE example Nehemiah was for elders lol
Year 3
Psalm 137: 9 Happy will be the one who seizes your children
And dashes them against the rocks.+
Mention that it is not wrong to pray for worldly children to die.
Ecclesiaties 3: 12 I have concluded that there is nothing better for them than to rejoice and to do good during their life,+ 13 also that everyone should eat and drink and find enjoyment for all his hard work. It is the gift of God.+
Use this highlight to announce you upcoming superbowl party!
Year 4
Ezekiel 23: 18 “When she went on brazenly engaging in prostitution and exposing her nakedness,+ I turned away from her in disgust, just as I* had turned away from her sister in disgust.+ 19 And she kept increasing her acts of prostitution,+ calling to mind the days of her youth when she prostituted herself in the land of Egypt.+ 20 She lusted after them like the concubines of men whose male members are like those of a donkey and whose genitals are like those of a horse. 21 You yearned for the obscene conduct of your youth in Egypt+ when they fondled your bosom, the breasts of your youth.+
Feel free to make your own comment up about why the bible contains ponography.
Micah 7:5 Do not put faith in your companion
Or trust a close friend.+Guard what you say to the one who lies in your embrace.
Mention your marriage problems to the whole congregation
Malachi 2:3 “Look! I will ruin* your sown seed because of you,+and I will scatter dung on your faces, the dung of your festivals; and you will be carried away to it
Mention how you wish you could poop on Christmas presents.
Last year:
All of John 2: (After Jesus turns water into wine) 13 Now the Passover+ of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 He found in the temple those selling cattle and sheep and doves,+ and the money brokers in their seats. 15 So after making a whip of ropes, he drove all those with the sheep and cattle out of the temple, and he poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.+ 16 And he said to those selling the doves: “Take these things away from here! Stop making the house of my Father a house of commerce!”*+ 17 His disciples recalled that it is written: “The zeal for your house will consume me.”+18 Therefore, in response the Jews said to him: “What sign can you show us,+ since you are doing these things?”19 Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”+ 20 The Jews then said: “This temple was built in 46 years, and will you raise it up in three days?”
Mention how We should not drink too much wine bacause after Jesus made so much wine he went into the temple spoke really weird things and caused damage and havoc.
Acts 23: Looking intently at the San′he·drin, Paul said: “Men, brothers, I have behaved before God with a perfectly clear conscience+ down to this day.” 2 At this the high priest An·a·ni′as ordered those standing by him to strike him on the mouth. 3 Then Paul said to him: “God is going to strike you, you whitewashed wall. Do you sit to judge me according to the Law and at the same time violate the Law by commanding me to be struck?” 4 Those standing by said: “Are you insulting the high priest of God?” 5 And Paul said: “Brothers, I did not know he was high priest. For it is written, ‘You must not speak injuriously of a ruler of your people.’”+ 6 Now Paul, knowing that the one part was made up of Sadducees but the other of Pharisees, cried out in the San′he·drin: “Men, brothers, I am a Pharisee,+ a son of Pharisees. Over the hope of the resurrection of the dead I am being judged.” 7 Because he said this, a dissension arose between the Pharisees and the Sadducees, and the assembly was split. 8 For the Sadducees say that there is neither resurrection nor angel nor spirit, but the Pharisees accept* them all.+ 9 So a great uproar broke out, and some of the scribes of the party of the Pharisees rose and began arguing fiercely, saying: “We find nothing wrong in this man, but if a spirit or an angel spoke to him+—.” 10 Now when the dissension grew great, the military commander feared that Paul would be torn apart by them, and he commanded the soldiers to go down and snatch him from their midst and bring him into the soldiers’ quarters.
Use this account to mention that in court cases it is okay to insult the judge offhandedly and cause dicvision between paries and distirbences to get off free.
1 Corinthains 9: 26 Therefore, the way I am running is not aimlessly;+ the way I am aiming my blows is so as not to be striking the air; 27 but I pummel* my body+ and lead it as a slave, so that after I have preached to others, I myself should not become disapproved* somehow.
Mention that you use whips on your body everynight.
Revelation 22: 18 “I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things,+ God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll;+ 19 and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life+ and out of the holy city,+ things that are written about in this scroll.
Mention how the GB are not going to make it to heaven because they removed the ending of Mark lol
There are hundreds I could mention but these are a few classics