Posts by HowTheBibleWasCreated

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Question for Atheists.. Did you gain a Greater Sense of Morality and Happiness?

by objectivetruth in

i've heard some view points that state, atheists are generally more moral & caring for fellow humans, than are theists.. i'd like to hear some personal stories of life changes and quality of life after you became atheist.

i have a simple theory that may explain this.. i'll explain my theory if you'd like, after a few responses, as i really am interested in the personal changes that you experienced.. thank you very much, and i look forward to your stories..

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Atheists treat others well becaue they want to and it's logical.

Theists treat others well because an invisable man is watching their every move and will punish them if they slip

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Solomon's Temple was there one??

by Crazyguy in

its interesting to find out that there is no evidence of king david or his son solomon.

what about this amazing temple that solomon supposedly built??

there is no arcylogical evidence that it ever excisted either.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Putting Dacid and Solomon aside (Who I will be dealing with in futher chapters of my book on here) the first temple I am 90% sure existed. However:

1. Solomon didn't build it. (He likely didn't exist)

2. 2 Kings 12 describes a 'refit' of the temple. I think this is when the Yahweh temple was built in Jerusalem. There were temples to other gods too.

3. Dueteronomy 12-26 is a law code from the north that was revised and used for Josiah's reforms. It is 100% likely a temple existed then for Yahweh.

4. There were other temples for Yahweh. (Bethel, Shiloh etc)

5. The book of Ezra is mosly from the 200s BCE and can't be relied on.

I do however think the second temple is the description found in 1 Kings 6,7.

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How The Bible Was Invented 6. Israel Fights Back and becomes a Kingdom (925-870BCE)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

was buried in tirzah; and elah his son reigned.

judah, elah the son of baasha began to reign.

they written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of israel?.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I haven't read that yet. The book is for every bible believer however as I know more about JWs I might tend to hint sometimes.

I already addressed the LXX and the MT in the last chapter. (As well as the dead sea scrolls.) I never dealt with the Samaritian Pentatuch since it wasn't rlevent for 1 Kings. As for canons I might deal with that but this is a process that took place for Jews in the secod century CE and Christians in the 4th. Kind of early in the book lol.

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How The Bible Was Invented 6. Israel Fights Back and becomes a Kingdom (925-870BCE)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

was buried in tirzah; and elah his son reigned.

judah, elah the son of baasha began to reign.

they written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of israel?.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Doug as I am showing they were Canaanite hill dwellers by as archeology shows from Omri's time onwards Israel was a Kingdom. As for Solon and David many will note I missed them. I do not believe they are historical and will deal with why I think that soon.

1 Kings is a compilation of Israelite texts from Omri's house(Later jehu's) and later Judean propoganda (Deuteronimits).... I need to seperate them but sometimes the line is hard. That is why as I am posting here drafts.

(Moses will be dealt with later.)

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How The Bible Was Invented 6. Israel Fights Back and becomes a Kingdom (925-870BCE)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

was buried in tirzah; and elah his son reigned.

judah, elah the son of baasha began to reign.

they written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of israel?.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Jeroboam I name was unlikely to be his name. More likely it is that Jeroboam the second living 200 years later made the tradition of the first king being Jeroboam since Jeroboam II was probably one of the best kings Israel had later.

Although the text of 1 Kings is muh later at this point it likely is 50% accurate. Thus we will work with what it says.

14:1At that time Abijah the son of Jeroboam
fell sick.....
14:18All Israel
buried him, and mourned for him,...
...14:20The days which Jeroboam reigned were
two and twenty years: and he slept with his
fathers, and Nadab his son reigned in his place....
...15:25Nadab the son of Jeroboam began to reign
over Israel in the second year of Asa king of
Judah; and he reigned over Israel two years.
15:26He did that which was evil in the sight of
Yahweh, and walked in the way of his father,
and in his sin with which he made Israel to
sin.

At this point most will note I am only picking out things that are likely historical.

15:27Baasha the son of Ahijah, of the house
of Issachar, conspired against him; and Baasha
struck him at Gibbethon, which belonged to
the Philistines; for Nadab and all Israel were
laying siege to Gibbethon.
So what?
The problem is the name of the city is very much a play on Saul's city. Think about Saul as you read the next few lines.
15:29It happened
that, as soon as he was king, he struck all the
house of Jeroboam: he didn’t leave to Jeroboam
any who breathed, until he had destroyed
him; ......
..... 15:31Now
the rest of the acts of Nadab, and all that he did,
aren’t they written in the book of the chronicles
of the kings of Israel? ...

....15:33In the third year of Asa king of
Judah, Baasha the son of Ahijah began to reign
over all Israel in Tirzah for twenty-four years.
15:34He did that which was evil in the sight of
Yahweh, and walked in the way of Jeroboam,
and in his sin with which he made Israel to sin.....

16:5Now the rest of the acts of Baasha, and
what he did, and his might aren’t they written
in the book of the chronicles of the kings of
Israel? 16:6Baasha slept with his fathers, and
was buried in Tirzah; and Elah his son reigned
in his place.
Don't be confused. I removed 80% of later lines.
16:8In the twenty-sixth year of Asa king of
Judah, Elah the son of Baasha began to reign
over Israel in Tirzah for two years. 16:9His
servant Zimri, captain of half his chariots,
conspired against him. Now he was in Tirzah,
drinking himself drunk in the house of Arza,
whowas over the household in Tirzah: 16:10and
Zimri went in and struck him, and killed
him, in the twenty-seventh year of Asa king
of Judah, and reigned in his place. 16:11It
happened, when he began to reign, as soon
as he sat on his throne, that he struck all the
house of Baasha: he didn’t leave him a single
one who urinates on a wall,h neither of his
relatives, nor of his friends. 16:12Thus Zimri
destroyed all the house of Baasha, according to
the word of Yahweh, which he spoke against
Baasha by Jehu the prophet, 16:13for all the sins
of Baasha, and the sins of Elah his son, which
they sinned, and with which they made Israel
to sin, to provoke Yahweh, the God of Israel,
to anger with their vanities. 16:14Now the rest
of the acts of Elah, and all that he did, aren’t
they written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel?

16:15In the twenty-seventh
year of Asa king of Judah, Zimri reigned
seven days in Tirzah. Now the people were
encamped against Gibbethon, which belonged
to the Philistines. 16:16The people who were
encamped heard say, Zimri has conspired, and
has also struck the king: therefore all Israel
made Omri, the captain of the army, king over
Israel that day in the camp. 16:17Omri went
up from Gibbethon, and all Israel with him,
and they besieged Tirzah. 16:18It happened,
when Zimri saw that the city was taken, that
he went into the castle of the king’s house, and
burnt the king’s house over him with fire, and
died, 16:19for his sins which he sinned in doing
that which was evil in the sight of Yahweh, in
walking in the way of Jeroboam, and in his sin
which he did, to make Israel to sin. 16:20Now
the rest of the acts of Zimri, and his treason
that he committed, aren’t they written in the
book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel?

Why does Zimri's death story sound like Saul? Likely because although Saul MIGHT have been a previous rular the stories were remember from later.

What is more likely the HINGE of the Hebrew bible is next:
16:21Then were the people of Israel divided into
two parts: half of the people followed Tibni
the son of Ginath, to make him king; and
half followed Omri. 16:22But the people who
followed Omri prevailed against the people
who followed Tibni the son of Ginath: so Tibni
died, and Omri reigned. 16:23In the thirty-first
year of Asa king of Judah, Omri began to reign
over Israel for twelve years. He reigned six
years in Tirzah. 16:24He bought the hill Samaria
of Shemer for two talents of silver; and he built
on the hill, and called the name of the city
which he built, after the name of Shemer, the
owner of the hill, Samaria

This is a known historical fact from archeology. Omri was indeed a great rular who made Isreal a Kingdom.

.16:27Nowthe rest of theacts of Omri which he did, and

his might that he showed, aren’t they written
in the book of the chronicles of the kings of
Israel? 16:28So Omri slept with his fathers,
and was buried in Samaria; and Ahab his son
reigned in his place.

Before we deal with Ahab some Pslams were composed at this time.

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How The Bible Was Invented- 5. Jeroboam the son of Nabat also known as Aaron

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

the song of deborah gave us a complete list of the tribes of israel at that time.

while it can be noticed that only a few of these tribes banded together what is more interesting is what the song doesn't mention.. .

simeon, levi and judah are absent!

HowTheBibleWasCreated

The Song of Deborah gave us a complete list of the tribes of Israel at that time. While it can be noticed that only a few of these tribes banded together what is more interesting is what the Song DOESN'T MENTION.

Simeon, Levi and Judah are absent! None. Nada.

Judah will be dealt with extensivly later as will Simeon. Levi is the oddball. The name is actually Egyptian and means 'Joining'. (It works out the same in Hebrew)

Thus by their very name the Levites were NOT Israelite. They were Egyptian scribes and learned men. But when did they come? With Shishak? If there any tradition of the Shishak invasion in the Hebrew Bible that has come down other then the quick mention in 1 Kings 14? (And the parallel in Chronicles)

The answer would be no unless we come to accept a text very few have ever seen.

The Greek Septuagint. (LXX)

Although some may laugh and state that the LXX dates from the 200s BCE that is not entirley true. The earliest portions of the Hebrew Bible are:

1. A mention of the preiestly blessing around 600 BCE (I will deal with this soon)

2. The Dead Sea Scrolls which date from 150 BCE- 70 CE

3. The MT (Masoretic Text)which is the version most Hebrew Bibles are based on. Sadly the earliest version of this dates from the 900CE!

While the Dead Sea Scroll often line up with the MT there are times the texts are fliud and match the LXX. THUS THE LXX MUST BE CONSIDERED!

The so-called 'addition' in 1 Kings 11 of the LXX portrays Jeroboam I as coming with an army from Egypt into Israel.

Some may object reading 1 Kings 11 saying the Jeroboam in this story is in exile. Running from Solomon. However the very next chapter is identical in the MT and the LXX and both show Jeroboam as leading the northern tribes.

What we have then is a man leading the northern tribes that came out of Egypt and will form the new Kingdom of Isreal! That is a big tradition the later editors (Deuteronomists) could not really ignore.

Futhermores note 1 Kings 12 gives a list of Jeroboam's "sins":

12:25Then Jeroboam built Shechem in the
hill country of Ephraim, and lived in it; and
he went out from there, and built Penuel.
Remember what the Song of Deborah said? Those in Ephriam came from Amalek.
12:28Whereupon the king took counsel, and
made two calves of gold; and he said to them,
“It is too much for you to go up to Jerusalem.
Look and see your gods, Israel, which brought
you up out of the land of Egypt!” 12:29He set
the one in Bethel, and the other put he in Dan.

This might sound very familier. It should, because in Exodus 32 it says:

32:3All the people took off the golden rings
which were in their ears, and brought them to
Aaron. 32:4He received what they handed him,
and fashioned it with an engraving tool, and
made it a molten calf; and they said, “These are
your gods, Israel, which brought you up out of
the land of Egypt.”
32:5When Aaron saw this, he built an altar
before it; and Aaron made a proclamation, and
said, “Tomorrow shall be a feast to Yahweh.”
32:6They rose up early on the next day,
and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace
offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to
drink, and rose up to play.

This is put simply SHOCKING!

Why is Aaron connected to Jeroboam I?

If that is not enough who are Jeroboams sons?:

Abijam and Nadab.

Aarons sons:

Nadab, Abihu, Eleazar, Ithamar

What happenes to the sons of Jeroboam I and the first two sons of Aaron? They are killed.

This simlarity was noted by many bible schoolars and recently by Israel Finkelstein in a public lecture as being a shocking parallel.

The last clue to this puzzle is the name Aaron is Egyptian. It is not a name. It is a title. OVERSEER.

Remember 1 Kings 12:
12:31He made houses of high places, and made
priests from among all the people, who were
not of the sons of Levi. 12:32Jeroboam ordained
a feast in the eighth month, on the fifteenth day
of the month,......
...he did so in Bethel,
sacrificing to the calves that he had made: and
he placed in Bethel the priests of the high places
that he had made. 12:33He went up to the altar
which he had made in Bethel on the fifteenth
day in the eighth month, even in the month
which he had devised of his own heart: and he
ordained a feast for the children of Israel, and
went up to the altar, to burn incense.

An overseer indeed. This is what I beleive happened in the 920s BCE in Israel:

1. Shishak (I will use the Israelite version of his name) invaded Israel and took control of the main tribes in the highlands and the tribes in the Trans Jordan allied with them.
2. He set up an Aaron-Overseer who set up two shrines in Dan and Bethel (Likely Dan was Laish at the time ) for El likely but porbably accepted Yahweh as an Israelite god.
3. Sisera died but Israel still was under Egyptian rule (at least partially) again.
4. The tribal leader of the Israelites before MIGHT have been Saul but this is very slim for evidence.
5. Despite Aaron (Jeroboam I) wanting to keep power as we know later his sons were overthrown later by Israelites. (The topic of our next chapter)
6. Egypt sent learned men in to teach new priests. Likely they accepted Yahweh and Baal and El and Asherah however at this point WRITING WILL INCRESE IN ISRAEL!

This chapter will shock some. More shocking was the overthrow yet to come.

How The Bible Was Invented 4. The Song of Deborah (900s BCE)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

but according to the song the battle here is after shamgar!

but when in egyptian records is this?

be blessed, yahweh!.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Dating assigned to the Song of Deborah varies widely. Yet this is a critical mesurment due to the song's content. This is the song that tell us the most about Israel before it was a kingdom.

Quite often this song has been placed in the 1100s BCE. However there is one line in the song that betrays this date as being wrong:

The note on Shamgar in 5:6–7 includes two temporal phrases,
“from the days of Shamgar” and “until the rising of Deborah.”

If Shamgar were originally Ðamgar, the name is composed of
participles of !yc and rwg (synonyms for “attack”) meaning “the
charging assailant,” a fitting name for a military hero.
Futher his father's name is Anath. This was the name of a Canaanite deity.

In a fragmentary passage from Ugarit (modern Ras Shamra), Syria ‘Anat appears as a fierce, wild and furious warrior in a battle, wading knee-deep in blood, striking off heads, cutting off hands, binding the heads to her torso and the hands in her sash, driving out the old men and townsfolk with her arrows, her heart filled with joy. "Her character in this passage anticipates her subsequent warlike role against the enemies of Baal".

Thus Shamar lived in the days of the Canaanite overlords, before 1200 BCE likely. But according to the song the battle here is AFTER Shamgar!
Reading this song shows a clear overthrow of local chieftans for new rulars. But who would overthrow the lose tribes in the highlands?

The name of the oppressor, Sisera, is the giveaway. Ses-Ra, "servant of Ra". Egyptian armies. But when in Egyptian records is this? A trip to Karnak in Egypt is the final clue.

The records of Sheshonk I are found there. (Shishak in the Hebrew Bible)
He made a campain into Canaan around 925 BCE. (The Egyptian record are fluid as the dates cannot be pointed down perfectly. Thus -/+ 20 years at this point) In this campain he decribes a group of people in a loose alliance in the central highlands and a small group in the Trans-Jordon allied with them. THIS IS THE EXACT DISCRIPTION OF THE TRIBES IN THE SONG OF DEBORAH!

(Some at this point might be confused as Shishak is mentioned at 1st Kings 11:40, 14:25, and 2 Chronicles 12:2-9 in a very different context. But remember these are late late texts!)

Lets consider the Song of Deborah in the 10th century BCE context. (Judges 5: 2-31a)

5:2“Because the leaders took the lead in Israel,
because the people offered themselves
willingly,
be blessed, Yahweh!

This tells us that Israel had tribal leaders.

5:3“Hear, you kings!
Give ear, you princes!
I, even I, will sing to Yahweh.
I will sing praise to Yahweh, the El of
Israel.

She is addressing a group of rulars. New Egyptian rulars?

5:4“Yahweh, when you went forth out of Seir,
when you marched out of the field of
Edom,
the earth trembled, the sky also dropped.
Yes, the clouds dropped water.
5:5The mountains quaked at the presence of
Yahweh,
even Sinai, at the presence of Yahweh, the
God of Israel.

I have dealt with these lines when we dealt with the appearance of Yahweh as a new god.

5:6“In the days of Shamgar the son of Anath,
in the days of Jael, the highways were
unoccupied.
The travelers walked through byways.
5:7The rulers ceased in Israel.

This refers to the bronze age collapse of Canaanite city states.

They ceased until I, Deborah, arose;
Until I arose a mother in Israel.

This line is an insertation most likely by the Deuteronomist editor.

5:8They chose new gods.

Like Yahweh.

Then war was in the gates.
Was there a shield or spear seen among
forty thousand in Israel?

Is this a somewhat accurate number of the fighting males? If it is then the highlands were well populated. Archeology by Israel Finkelstein and William Dever shows the population of the highlands between 1200-900 grew quite steady and properously.

5:9My heart is toward the governors of Israel,
who offered themselves willingly among
the people.
Bless Yahweh!

Note the Hebrew word used for the tribal chieftians is translated as governers where s the new rulars are called kings and princes who are addressed next>>>>>

5:10“Speak, you who ride on white donkeys,
youwho sit on rich carpets,
and you who walk by the way.

5:11Far from the noise of archers, in the places
of drawing water,
there they will rehearse the righteous acts
of Yahweh,
the righteous acts of his rule in Israel.

Yahweh is clearly replacing El.

“Then the people of Yahweh went down to the
gates.

5:12‘Awake, awake, Deborah!
Awake, awake, utter a song!
Arise, Barak, and lead away your captives,
you son of Abinoam.’

Barak was likely the general of the Israelite armies.

5:13“Then a remnant of the nobles and the
people came down.
Yahweh came down for me against the
mighty.

NOW PAY ATTENTION! THE NEXT LIST IS THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL IN THE 10TH CENTURY!

5:14Those whose root is in Amalek came out of
Ephraim,

We know where Ephriam came from then

after you, Benjamin, among your peoples.

Benjamin was with Ephriam

Governors come down out of Machir.

This is the Tranjordon area across from Galilee. The name is Egyptian

Those who handle the marshal’s staff
came out of Zebulun.

Interesting

5:15The princes of Issachar were with Deborah.
As was Issachar, so was Barak.
They rushed into the valley at his feet.

This ean Barak was only the leader of Issachar

By the watercourses of Reuben,
there were great resolves of heart.
5:16Why did you sit among the sheepfolds,
To hear the whistling for the flocks?
At the watercourses of Reuben
There were great searchings of heart.

The southern Trans Jordan tribe (name means wolves) probably didn't join them.

5:17Gilead lived beyond the Jordan.

Another tribe that didn't join.

Why did Dan remain in ships?

Dan seems to be a 'Sea-Peoples' likely the Denyens. Too far away for battle

Asher sat still at the haven of the sea,
and lived by his creeks.

Likely they had zero interst in this highland battle as Dan.

5:18Zebulun was a people that jeopardized their
lives to the deaths;
Naphtali also, on the high places of the
field.

Only two tribes are praised here. Machir likely only sent a few men.from across the Jordon.

5:19“The kings came and fought,
then the kings of Canaan fought at
Taanach by the waters of Megiddo.
They took no plunder of silver.

This valley cuts Israel in half and also runs to the see near Mt. Carmel. Good battleground.

5:20From the sky the stars fought.
From their courses, they fought against
Sisera.

Roughly gods.

5:21The river Kishon swept them away,
that ancient river, the river Kishon.
My soul, march on with strength.
5:22Then the horse hoofs stamped because of
the prancings,
the prancings of their strong ones.

Some chariots got caught in the mud. This happened often.

5:23‘Curse Meroz,’ said the messenger of Yahweh.
‘Curse bitterly its inhabitants,
because they didn’t come to help Yahweh,
to help Yahweh against the mighty.’

A city in this valley. They were nuetral in the battle.

5:24“Jael shall be blessed above women,
the wife of Heber the Kenite;

The Kenites are roughly from the south near Midian.

blessed shall she be above women in the
tent.
5:25He asked for water.
She gave him milk.
She brought him butter in a lordly dish.
5:26She put her hand to the tent peg,
and her right hand to the workmen’s
hammer.
With the hammer she struck Sisera.
She struck through his head.
Yes, she pierced and struck through his
temples.
5:27At her feet he bowed, he fell, he lay.
At her feet he bowed, he fell.
Where he bowed, there he fell down
dead.

This could be a story. If it is real it implies a hand-hand battle and not Sisera being asleep as later editors humerously made a story out of.

5:28“Through the window she looked out, and
cried:
Sisera’s mother looked through the lattice.
‘Why is his chariot so long in coming?
Why do the wheels of his chariots wait?’
5:29Her wise ladies answered her,
Yes, she returned answer to herself,

Of course this is fiction but it is part of near-Eastern literturary works.

5:30‘Have they not found, have they not divided
the spoil?
A lady, two ladies to every man;
to Sisera a spoil of dyed garments,
a spoil of dyed garments embroidered,
of dyed garments embroidered on both
sides, on the necks of the spoil?’

Egyptian

5:31“So let all your enemies perish, Yahweh,
but let those who love him be as the sun
when it rises forth in its strength.”

Now to learn about who their new Egyptian overlord was we will examine this history behind Jeroboam I.

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How The Bible Was Invented - 3. Song of the Sea (Exodus 15:1b-13)

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

the oldest hebrew in the bible is contained in two songs.. .

the song of the sea.

(exodus 15) and the song of deborah (judges 5).

HowTheBibleWasCreated

The oldest Hebrew in the bible is contained in two songs.

The Song of the Sea. (Exodus 15) and the Song of Deborah (Judges 5)
Which is older?

Schoolars are unsure. Both have pros and cons and clues.

However I think the Song of the Sea is the oldest and was written in the 11th century BCE by a scribe that was exiled from Egypt and dwelt in Northern Canaan which was now called Israel and had a new warrior god replacing Baal.... Yahweh.

To understand the Song of the Sea we must realize it is in two parts.

Ex 15: 1b- 12 are original. The second section is a very obvious add on by later Judeans.
Before examining the text remember four things!

1. Very few people could write. This was an educated person putting into writting what was previously oral. Likely a priest of some sort educated in Egypt.
2. Yahweh was replacing Baal and as such Baal's stories became Yahweh's.
3. Yearly most Canaanite socities had had year festival to their gods. The Ugratic texts in Syria show many Baal hymns one of which we will eximine.
4. These people were still polytheistic. Yahweh was one of many gods.

Dating this song in 1100BCE as a starting point we will eximine a typical Baal hymn:

Yam wants to rule over the other gods and be the most powerful of all
Baal-Hadad opposes Yam and slays him
Baal-Hadad, with the help of Anath and Athirat, persuades El to allow him a palace
Baal-Hadad commissions Kothar-wa-Khasis to build him a palace.
King of the gods and ruler of the world seeks to subjugate Mot
Mot kills Baal-Hadad
Anath brutally kills Mot, grinds him up and scatters ashes
Baal-Hadad returns to Mount Saphon
Mot, having recovered from being ground up and scattered, challenges Baal-Hadad
Baal-Hadad refuses; Mot submits
Baal-Hadad rules again

Now lets eximine the Song of the Sea. (ALL TRANSLATIONS ARE BASED ON THE WORLD ENGLISH BIBLE WITH MY OWN ADDITIONS)

“I will sing to Yahweh, for he has triumphed
gloriously.
The horse and his rider he has thrown
into the sea.

(This might indeeed be a literal referance. Withing these people lifetimes Rameses II had invaded with chariots into Syria in a famous battle)

15:2Yah is my strength and song.
He has become my salvation.

(Yah... The primitive for of Yahweh used by the Shashu. This is very likely to be a new Yeat Hymn.)

This is my El, and I will praise him;
my father’s El, and I will exalt him.

(I changed 'God' to 'El' to bring the origianl statement out. Yes.... Yahweh replaces El here)

15:3Yahweh is a man of war.
Yahweh is his name.
15:4He has cast Pharaoh’s chariots and his army
into the sea.
His chosen captains are sunk in the Sea of Reeds.
15:5The deeps cover them.
They went down into the depths like a
stone.

(This is a play on the Baal cycle with Yam. Only here Yam is Egypt. Literally Rameses II forces did sink into a river in Syria however this is morelikely a hatred for Egyptian overlords mixed with the Yam-Baal conflict.)

15:6Your right hand, Yahweh, is glorious in
power.
Your right hand, Yahweh, dashes the
enemy in pieces.

(Like most gods of the time Yahweh is seen as humna-like)

15:7In the greatness of your excellency, you
overthrow those who rise up against
you.
You send forth your wrath. It consumes
them as stubble.
15:8With the blast of your nostrils, the waters
were piled up.
The floods stood upright as a heap.
The deeps were congealed in the heart of
the sea.

This is actually a direct quote form some Baal cycle stories.)

15:9The enemy said, ‘I will pursue. I will
overtake. I will divide the spoil.
My desire shall be satisfied on them.
I will draw my sword, my hand shall
destroy them.’
15:10You blew with your wind.
The sea covered them.
They sank like lead in the mighty waters.

(A referance to a battle but it is very open. Yahweh is a war god.)

15:11Who is like you, Yahweh, among the gods?
Who is like you, glorious in holiness,
fearful in praises, doing wonders?

(Very Polytheistic)

15:12You stretched out your right hand.
The earth swallowed them.
(Not exactly and exodus story yet)

It will be noted this became a main song and as such after 722BCE it came south to Judah and was expanded and after the exile placed in the narritive which was based in it.

However at this point it was a simple hymn for Yahweh sand as festivals.

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Were Jonathan and Phinehas in the time of Samuel?

by opusdei1972 in

i have read in a past post of leolaia the following words:.

"the grandsons of moses and aaron (jonathan and phinehas) were depicted as still alive in the time of samuel".

where in the bible i can find the above statement??.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

The text you are looking for is in Judges 18.

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How The Bible Was Invented - 1. The Canaanite Background 1500-1200 BCE

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

to truly understand the earliest biblical texts we must travel back in time.

to an ancient land in and ancient time.. the land of canaan.. canaan sat in the hub of three major civilizations.

egypt to the south.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Crazyguy: Thanks for the correction on the first part about El and Baal Hadad. As for Dagon if you check the Ugaratic texts there is a fair bit of overlap. (Check Dagon out on Wikepedia) Thanks

Phizzy: Yes the exile and documents during and after that time are the bulk of the Hebrew Bible. Before this are only law codes, priestly blessing, some Psalms and the core of Deuteronomy. (Although a few proverbs are likely to be pre-exilic too)