Xanthippe: Several year ago i would have. However I find excitement wake me up quickly. Today I prefer philosophic discussion,or practice for real life with people easier and enoyable.
HowTheBibleWasCreated
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A lucid dream last night...exposes JW thinking
by HowTheBibleWasCreated infor anyone who understands lucid dreaming this story will come to no surprise.
if not lucid dreaming is defined as a dream where you know you are dreaming and have control of the dream.. last night during a dream i was at my uncles place for some reason.
my uncle is an elder, raised ia jw, pioneered in quebec in the 60s and is often giving talks at conventions.
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A lucid dream last night...exposes JW thinking
by HowTheBibleWasCreated infor anyone who understands lucid dreaming this story will come to no surprise.
if not lucid dreaming is defined as a dream where you know you are dreaming and have control of the dream.. last night during a dream i was at my uncles place for some reason.
my uncle is an elder, raised ia jw, pioneered in quebec in the 60s and is often giving talks at conventions.
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For anyone who understands lucid dreaming this story will come to no surprise. If not lucid dreaming is defined as a dream where you know you are dreaming and have control of the dream.
Last night during a dream I was at my uncles place for some reason. My uncle is an elder, raised ia JW, pioneered in Quebec in the 60s and is often giving talks at conventions. Hes a good man. Just a JW elder. Being he is around 70 I would never expose or even try to expose the lies of God and the Bible to him.
However during this dream I became aware that it was a dream. (I lucid dream often)
I ran out to my uncle who was in front of shelves full of bibles. I screamed at him:
iTS A CULT! iTS A CULT! ALL RELIGIONS ARE CULTS!
He laughed at me as if I was joking.
Since this was a dream I was in control of I grew my arm longer and grabbed a bible off the shelf behind him. (An 1984 soft cover NWT)
THIS IS ALL FABRICATED ANCIENT PROPAGANDA! JEHOVAH IS NOT REAL!
Now he got mad at me and said Satan had me under control. Jehovah was real and so was the bible.
I raised the bible to the air and said:
MY JEHOVAH CAUSE THIS BIBLE TO VANISH.
Nothing happened. I nodded. My uncle however gave the most JW answer he could:
"Jehovah is punishing you for your lack of faith. Thats why a miracle didnt happen for you."
To which I (being in control of the dream) made the bible vanish.
Sadly I woke up at this point. Laughing.
As I reflect my uncle response was typical JW. Its a make believe answer to justify your belief in nothing.
As long as they have this mentality it is almost impossible to wake them
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Stupid memorial obsessions
by Simon inall the different congregations around the world hold it at similar local times but they all effectively are at different times relative to each other ... so why does the time matter?.
why the almost superstitious "oh, it must be after sundown".
cause it's not sundown everywhere that second.. god knew the earth was round ... right?.
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I Love TATT: Those places above the arctic circle in March/April have a sundown... In June they don't -
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Well I spilled it to the elders (elder)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inan elder came over for a visit the other night (he couldn't get a partner) personally i consider him a friend and have revieiled many things to him an figured the tie has come to step out of this religion slowly.. well i finally told him i have no believe in the bible (other then the confirmed history in it) or god.
i did it slowly and tactfully and even non-agressive.. his response to learning i believe in evolution was that evolution doesn't happen now i respectfully disagreed and pointed out lactose and alcohol tolerance among the last thousand years as well as tibetian lung/hearts.
he refused to believe it.
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Well I spilled it to the elders (elder)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inan elder came over for a visit the other night (he couldn't get a partner) personally i consider him a friend and have revieiled many things to him an figured the tie has come to step out of this religion slowly.. well i finally told him i have no believe in the bible (other then the confirmed history in it) or god.
i did it slowly and tactfully and even non-agressive.. his response to learning i believe in evolution was that evolution doesn't happen now i respectfully disagreed and pointed out lactose and alcohol tolerance among the last thousand years as well as tibetian lung/hearts.
he refused to believe it.
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Pete: Yeah had you asked me a year ago i would have tried everything to get her out, but following many examples on here as well as using some pschylogical reasoning I have realized this is a poor method... I will support her religious choice... but leave myself open to her questions -
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2016-3-18-BOE-Discontinuing Feature Length DVD and Audio CD Production!
by Atlantis in2016-3-18-boe.. re: discontinuing feature-length dvd and audio cd production.
.. http://we.tl/cpevenkiz2.
.. .. petra!.
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They will produce movies on JW.org or JW Libray Just as well to have less CDs/DVDs -
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Well I spilled it to the elders (elder)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inan elder came over for a visit the other night (he couldn't get a partner) personally i consider him a friend and have revieiled many things to him an figured the tie has come to step out of this religion slowly.. well i finally told him i have no believe in the bible (other then the confirmed history in it) or god.
i did it slowly and tactfully and even non-agressive.. his response to learning i believe in evolution was that evolution doesn't happen now i respectfully disagreed and pointed out lactose and alcohol tolerance among the last thousand years as well as tibetian lung/hearts.
he refused to believe it.
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An elder came over for a visit the other night (He couldn't get a partner) Personally I consider him a friend and have revieiled many things to him an figured the tie has come to step out of this religion slowly.
Well I finally told him I have no believe in the bible (Other then the confirmed history in it) or god. I did it slowly and tactfully and even non-agressive.
His response to learning I believe in evolution was that evolution doesn't happen now I respectfully disagreed and pointed out Lactose and alcohol tolerance among the last thousand years as well as tibetian lung/hearts. He refused to believe it. Sad.
He was sad because he realized I had proof...(or what he called... one-sided proof)*....But I firmly explained at this point I would not drag my wife down. He knows I support her no matter what she chooses. Also I explained I was willing to dabate anyone who left atheism and came to JWs.. he said he didn't know anyone...lol..... but would find someone. I said I would be happy to debate and have an open mind #
He left sad but not angry thus I partially accomplised my outing without a JC.
*One sided proof?... once I know of ERVS Chromosome #2 and other 28 points cofy mentioned recently what is to argue?
#Oh I have no problem with having an open mind to creation... but they must have 100% proof.
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JW Videos
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inmy belief is that the jw organization is moving towards video teaching.
at the last convention a mini jesus movie was created.
today watching the jw video on 'older ones' is the famous widow in the temple scene with the same actor for jesus.. are they slowly and carefully making a jesus movie?.
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My belief is that the JW organization is moving towards video teaching. At the last convention a Mini Jesus movie was created. Today watching the JW video on 'older ones' is the famous widow in the temple scene with the same actor for Jesus.
Are they slowly and carefully making a Jesus movie?
Some posters on here say the JWs are an old testament religion but these posters are not stuck in it like I am.
We are told from the WT to read ... the gospels... In fact that is where they told us recently to start.
Although many OT stories are in their videos on JW library the majority are of the sermon on the mount or some other Jesus teaching....
I think JW.org is going to not only complete their audio bible in few more years but dramatize the NT especially the gospels.
That being said the OT stories will be followed too... thankfully (Better stories) and the convention of 2016 will have this.
By 2020 I think the Public talk on Sundays will be a public talk via video or a story from the bible on the screen.
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Within 2 years I see... KH Karaoke...Seriously
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inthis evening at the clam the job video was played and then the stupid peer pressure video.
this was not so odd.
however on the last elijah section pictures from the imitate their faith book was place on screen to imagine the scenes.
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This evening at the CLAM the Job video was played and then the stupid Peer pressure video. This was not so odd. However on the last Elijah section pictures from the Imitate their faith book was place on screen to imagine the scenes.
As the meeting closed to the end song (a new song) a thought came to me...
New songs.... orcestrated...... videos and pictures part of every meeting.... what if....
I predict in two years to have the lyrics of the song to be sung on video screens. Withing five years I predict a karaoke style projection to help with singing. This is not far fetched at all.
Already only 40% of my hall used a wiritten songbook. Most have JW Library on tablets/laptops or smartphone (myself included). Why have songbook at all? Why not put this on screen.
Of course this can easily be followed by putting cited bible verses on screen. (Other churches do this all the time)
I see this all within 2-5 years.... The ending success of a dying religion