These reason this exists in JWs and other christian groups is because it's in 1 Corinthians 11. (However may I point of the 'covering' described refers to a woman's hair as show by the context and culture of the text.
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A woman wearing a head covering in subjugation of men - absolutely mental
by jambon1 inhow did they ever get away with that and how does it go down now, in today's society?.
its fucking mental.
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Going "Hollywood" not helping!
by eyeuse2badub ingoing “hollywood” hasn’t seemed to help build any enthusiasm for the wtbts.
think about it, jw’s now have their own studio to make videos and cartoons.
the ‘kingdom’ dirges (songs) have received a makeover to a bit more modern tunes.
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There movie I think are decent... the one from the convention this year has some attractive girls and a special effects of a woman being turned to salt.
Last year was the amazing angel (CGI) and the 300 style movie of Hezekiah.
Hey they are ok.. We need more sex and violence though to be realistic... the society needs to watch the Spartacus series...lol
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What Happens If the JW Beard Policy Stumbles a Person
by Cold Steel insome of the videos on youtube really make the beard policy look ridiculous.
i wondered what would happen if the jw beard policy caused someone to stumble?
jesus most likely wore a beard, and charles taze russell had a beard.
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First the wt article posted clearly leaves beards as a conscience issue in many area. Fact is where I live doctors and professors have beards. Half or working men have beards. These are not bad people these are the best im thinking of.
Thus here 1 ms has a beard and beards are allowed for the CLAM meetings on the stage.
I have eczema on my face that plain looks bad and itches like crazy.. I have found my beard corers it. I'm only at a meeting maybe 2 or 3 times a month though now. NO ONE cares that I have a beard.... In fact i gave a bible reading with it just to piss of old F**ks.. 2 months ago. (Stumbled.. good... The mythical Weezus stumbled weak minded people too in John 6 )
Fact is the society has a better argument for the 'dresses' African brothers wear... they could use 1 Corinthians 11/... but do they... ope... they are Hypocrites just like all Christianity
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What is behind your choice of forum user name?
by stuckinarut2 injust curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
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Name of my youtube channel.. almost..HowTheBibleWasMade
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An early Hellenistic fable in the bible
by HowTheBibleWasCreated injps (1917)... the trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive-tree: reign thou over us.
and the trees said unto the vine: come thou, and reign over us.
then said all the trees unto the bramble: come thou, and reign over us.
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As most here know I am a bible minimalist. Not by choice. From several years of study and examining evidence and rejecting theories I previously thought valid I was forced to admit that the historical books of the Hebrew Bible date between 330-80 BCE
The earliest is likely is Jewish version of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fir_and_the_Bramble
Aesop (likely a fictional person) and his fables were well know and are NOT children's literature. They were originally philosophical texts.
But where is the bible are they?
Isaiah 5: 1-6 is often cited as is the obvious 2 Kings 14:9
However a more better parallel to the Greek fables is hidden is a disgusting narrative of Judges 9.
JPS (1917)..
The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive-tree: Reign thou over us. But the olive-tree said unto them: Should I leave my fatness, seeing that by me they honour God and man, and go to hold sway over the trees? And the trees said to the fig-tree: Come thou, and reign over us. But the fig-tree said unto them: Should I leave my sweetness, and my good fruitage, and go to hold sway over the trees? And the trees said unto the vine: Come thou, and reign over us. And the vine said unto them: Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to hold sway over the trees? Then said all the trees unto the bramble: Come thou, and reign over us. And the bramble said unto the trees: If in truth ye anoint me king over you, then come and take refuge in my shadow; and if not, let fire come out of the bramble, and devour the cedars of Lebanon
Note 2 Kings 14:9 has a simpler version of this: 'The thistle that was in Lebanon sent to the cedar that was in Lebanon, saying: Give thy daughter to my son to wife; and there passed by the wild beasts that were in Lebanon, and trod down the thistle.
These are versions of Greek fables that have been inserted in 'historical narratives' .
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48% Capacity at Kingdom Halls - A post on reddit
by berrygerry inthere was a letter read this week, followed by a talk about all the changes that are coming in the next couple of months regarding merging congregations in the area (va/md/dc) - the letter said that the kh's in the area are only being filled to 48% capacity.
this was music to my ears as i have noticed the decline in attendance in all the neighboring congregations.
they will sell some kingdom halls and merge some congregations.
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Many are 'fence-sitters' as the realize the 'truth' doesn't add up
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The Ultimate Conversion
by Etude inone thing that surprised me shortly after joining this site was the number of individuals who, after experiencing the deception of being a jw and the hypocrisy of the “truth”, switched to being catholic or “born-again” evangelists.
it seemed to me like jumping from the hot pan into the fire.. i don’t want to piss anyone off for his or her choices.
i feel everyone is free to believe what they may.
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Exactly what I have said here for awhile. If you leave JWs and become a 'christian' you are just a hypocrite in my opinion. Once science is shown debunking Christianity why stay?... to be a fool perhaps?... Is that what the WT does to people?.
I am thankful that most on here are non believers and if you must be spiritual (like me) try Buddhism or naturalism...
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Redating the bible-Song of deborah (Shamgar)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inthe hebrew language in biblical form did not exit until after 800 bce (likely 722).
the presents ex 15 and judges 5 as early but not contemporary.. well wake up... i'm a minimalist however i know the song of deborah fits somewhere.... like before omri.. (established as the first israelite ruler of israel..).
so where does that leave deborah or the song of the sea... both early hebrew but not canaanite.... the answer laid in shamngar...note:.
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What we know:
. The Hebrew language in biblical form did not exit until after 800 BCE (Likely 722)
The presents Ex 15 and Judges 5 as early but not contemporary.
Well wake up... I'm a minimalist however I know the song of Deborah fits somewhere...
Like before Omri.. (Established as the FIRST Israelite ruler of Israel..)
So where does that leave Deborah or the Song of the Sea... Both early Hebrew but not Canaanite...
The answer laid in Shamngar...Note:
The other mention of Shamgar, that in the Song of Deborah, connects Shamgar with a low period of Israelite society, and thus some scholars suspect him to have been a foreigner causing the oppression of Israelite society, rather than an Israelite ruler.[5] From the form of the name, it is suspected that Shamgar may actually have been a Hittite, a similar name occurring with Sangara, a Hittite king of Carchemish; it is also the case that Anath is the name of a Canaanite deity, and son of Anath is thus merely a royal title.[5][3] Additionally, there is reason to suspect that far from being an Israelite hero, Shamgar may actually have been the father of Sisera
Sangars is:
Sangara was a king of Carchemish, who until now was only known from Assyrian sources (but in 2015 he has been finally identified in Hieroglyphic Luwian too by the Turco-Italian Archaeological Expedition at Karkemish).[1] He is documented for 870 to 848 BC.[2]
Sangara likely accessed the throne of Carchemish only a short time after king Katuwa known from Hieroglyphic Luwian sources.[3] He is only mentioned in texts of the Assyrian kings Ashurnasirpal II and Shalmaneser III.[4]
First, Sangara was tributary of Ashurnasirpal II.[5] In 870 BC[6] (alternative dating: 882 BC[7]) the Assyrian king crossed the Euphrates and first turned against Carchemish. Facing the Assyrian army Sangara captulated quickly and paid a rich tribute because Carchemish was one of the wealthiest Syro-Hittite states of that time. He also had to send his chariotry, cavalry and infantry to support the Assyrian army. In return Sangara and Carchemish were spared by the Assyrians.[8]
In 858 BC Sangara participated in an anti-Assyrian coalition against Shalmaneser III which was formed by Aḫuni of Bit Adini, Hayyanu of Sam'al, Šuppiluliuma of Pattin and himself. They attacked the Assyrian army on the territory of Sam'al but were repelled.[9] The uprising of Carchemish continued until Shalmaneser III destroyed the fortified city of Sazabu on the territory of Carchemish in 857 BC. Sangara capitulated and paid rich tribute.[10]
In 853 BC, Sangara paid tribute to the Assyrians again.[11]
In 849 BC, Sangara tried uprising again, this time forming an alliance with Hadram of Bit Agusi. Shalmaneser III invaded the state of Carchemish, destroying and burning several cities in Sangara's dominion. Sangara capitulated but not for long. In 848 BC, Hadram and he uprose again Shalmaneser III reacted by capturing and destroying 97 of Sangara's cities. For the period after 848 BC nothing more is known about Sangara but it is likely stayed on his throne as a faithful vassal of the Assyrian king as his ally Hadram of Bit Agusi did.[12
So this is the dating of that song... likely also before Omri... meaning:m Jeroboam, Abajam, Baassha,Elah are myths...
This song introduces YHWH to Northern Canaan and thus we have no need to worship the god of Edom .. Like half the world does... Christians, Islams, Jews...
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The Tribe of Dan was NOT a genuine tribe of Israel
by fulltimestudent inthe claim that dan was not a genuine tribe is not new, but as the haaretz article explains there is newer archaeological evidence to suggest that the contemporary claims about the tribe of dan have some merit.. so check out the haaretz claims at: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/archaeology/1.756385.
but there are wider implications in the story.
if this particular group of people did not travel from egypt (as god's word of truth also claims) then they must have lived in canaan all the time.. then consider that palestine (canaan) was for so long part of the egyptian empire, and we begin to see that most of story about the origins of the israelites is mythical..
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"Oh Dan why did you remain in ships".... On my YouTube channel I supported the Song of Deborah as the best hope to the original tribes of Israel and that Dan was Phonetician
Also their placement in Joshua pus them in the heart of Philistine territory.
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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??
by Crazyguy init's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.
i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.
they are an extremist group!
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I disagree... Freedom of religioins towards an organization be it the WTS or the Holy See should not be tolerated...
Personal freedom .. by all means..
If the JWs in Russia want to continue the JW lifestyle... minus preaching... go for it.. I support their freedom within their home to do so...
The moment they take it to the street ir flash around building or an organization they face ban after today... And that s a GOOD thing.