I'm an atheist gnostic/Daoist however....
I will say you research is what I have always said Franz was NOT schooled in language. I think the NWT had sexual issues in the text Franz added.
behold, the days come, saith the lord god, that i will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the lord .
amos 8: 11. .
most of us who have been raised as jehovahs witnesses since at least the 1960s were occasionally reminded of the scholarship of fred franz and his command of eight or more languages, including the biblical languages of hebrew and greek.
I'm an atheist gnostic/Daoist however....
I will say you research is what I have always said Franz was NOT schooled in language. I think the NWT had sexual issues in the text Franz added.
the youngest reference i have come across is in the 1992 watchtower (march 1st page 27) - “in the summer of 1946, i was baptized at the international convention in cleveland, ohio.
although i was only six years of age…”.
i would like to find more examples of this, particularly of examples in more recent times.
Why have counties legalized this? I mean the USA was founded on secularism! Canada even more so. Some countries like Chile or the Philippines I have been too (Soon to live in the later) are Catholic and have outdated laws. The fact is that Europe is mostly secularized. The fact is:
1. Children can't consent to sex therefore can't consent to a relationship with YHWH who in Hosea makes it sexual.. sorry .. just true.
2. The JW say a driver's license proves you can be a JW.. K...Then 16 or les are outed. Actually in some provinces of Canada you can't get a FULL license until 19. even better, Who will get baptized at that age>... No one.
But 3/
Jesu was 30 according to Luke. Ok. They we go. Children need not be baptized at all. "Follow the master!"
I think taking kids to church or giving them instruction n religion is abuse!
i can't believe it.
it doesnt even seem real.
my mother told me that the world would gone by the time i was 25. .
In 43. i was told I would never have children. I have two and my wife and I try for a third. The fact is that my parents joined JWs together (My father was raised a JW but lapsed in the 1950s) and I was raised a child in the 80's then in the 90s and young adult in the 00s with no reality in my life. Only in 2010 di I start researching. In 2001 I made a big brake (right after my marriage actually) it's taken 9 year to extract myself for JWs and it took covid to finalize it mostly. I'm faded but not dfed or daed.
why do some people who were trapped in the wt and wake up after much frustration and anger that they were lied to, still believe in the bible god who allowed them and their families to be deceived and trapped for years.
i have an acquaintance who is a lot older than me and for the past 30 years he has been out of the watchtower religion and is sola scriptura.
sola scriptura is a theological doctrine that posits the christian scriptures as the sole infallible source of authority for christian faith and practice.
It does not take long at all! One night! That was all it took to truly investigate evolution. Why? Because the bible reading in Genesis was wrong.. to many archeological and textual holes.
that’s what coca-cola is telling their employees.
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this is ridiculous!.
We are all african
why do some people who were trapped in the wt and wake up after much frustration and anger that they were lied to, still believe in the bible god who allowed them and their families to be deceived and trapped for years.
i have an acquaintance who is a lot older than me and for the past 30 years he has been out of the watchtower religion and is sola scriptura.
sola scriptura is a theological doctrine that posits the christian scriptures as the sole infallible source of authority for christian faith and practice.
The fact is that being open to JW beliefs make a person open to another belief similar if they leave for reasons that are based on emotions or scriptural error by the WT. Ray Franz comes to mind as well as some here.
Before you list Jehovah's horrible acts I personally would lead a person to the oldest mention of him.... As a desert God of the Shashu people. In fact the archaic Jah or YHW is a throwback. The israelites only pickled up worship of YHWH very late likely after 900 bce judging by the name of Ahab's children
why does the j-w forums have a demonic avatar as starting avatar?
why would a biblical religion even consider having demonic images included, in any of their content?.
WTF? I mean what year is this 1600? This is likely the same person that claims they can find demonic images in the WT literature. The avatars on this forum that are default are not demonic they are insects and crabs etc. Are crabs demonic? I catch them in the summer and eat them,. Maybe I'm demonized. Are insects demonic? Well maybe you got a point there ...:P
i think back on the 30+ years of bs as well as my fading almost a decade and even now being low key in person to hopefully save my nieces from the wt.
i'm a wreck in some ways.
i'm other days i'm stable however when it comes to theism i depart quickly and with anger!
gen 1: 11 says: .
11 then god said, “let the earth sprout [j]vegetation, [k]plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to [l]their kind [m]with seed in them”; and it was so.
12 the earth produced [n]vegetation, [o]plants yielding seed according to [p]their kind, and trees bearing fruit [q]with seed in them, according to [r]their kind; and god saw that it was good.
Well I say JW's have an issue with this. They say the sun was created before day one and then only on day four was the sun moon and star reveled in the heavens because plants were adding free oxygen to the atmosphere.
But note Exodus 20:11- for in six days Yahweh made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore Yahweh blessed the Sabbath day, and made it holy. -WEB
So actually I have sympathy for young earth creationist at least they are BIBLICALLY correct.
The reality is this is a story in Genesis 1 taken from Berrousus who took this from Enuma Elish an ancient Babylonian story.
The order of the days is:
1- Light
2: Division between heaven and earth of waters
3. Land and Plants
Now watch>>
4. Sun and Moon and Stars parallel day 1
5. Birds and Fish paralleled day 2
6. Beast and Humans paralleled day 3
Day seven is the Sabbath which Exodus 20:11 (From the same author says)
so being around this cult, i always found it interesting that the rest of christianity use ad/bc and the non christians use bce/ce.
i never put two and two together.
but, it dawned on me that once again there is hidden proof that the witness cult is and anti-christ cult.
Actually the WT shot themselves in the foot!. In their KJV translation they had Usher's Chronology. It gives 587BC not 607 BCE as the date of Jerusalem's destruction in Kings/Chronicles/Jeremiah/Lamentations/Obadiah? and perhaps other areas. Thus I highly doubt many witnesses in the pre-NWT era was 100% on board with 607BCE.