once i learned TTATT....I find myself goingthruthemotions hence GTTM. I really wish my wife wake up so I could change my name to NotGoingThrutheMotions.
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i'm curious, why and how did you choose your username?.
does it hold any special significance for you, is there a share-able back story?.
for me sparrowdown is a playful reference to matt 10:29 and the title of the movie black hawk down.. matt 10:29 was my go-to scrip to "prove" that god cares about us as individuals.
once i learned TTATT....I find myself goingthruthemotions hence GTTM. I really wish my wife wake up so I could change my name to NotGoingThrutheMotions.
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i haven't been here in quite a while and thought i'd pop by.
i do lurk at times, i confess lol.
after reading the recent publications at the new golden calf (jw.org), my mind is kind of blown that jw's are still not seeing through the constant adjustments, clarifications, new light and reversals.
DOC.....That is why my username is GoingThruTheMotions.......I really is a sad state of affairs. My blinders are completely off and my wifes blinders are still on and I don't see her ever seeing the BORG for what it really is. But I keep going to the meetings to keep the peace and just go thru the motions.
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DocHouse: are you currently an active Jehovah witness? if so are you an elder or an MS? How long have you been a JW?
If you are an active witness....are you counting your time while you post here?
earlier you said you express how you feel openly....correct?
now is that expression only on this website or other apostate websites? or do you have the balls to actually tell a C.O., P.O or elders how you feel?
If you truely express your opinion to these people you would be disfellowshipped or at the least reproved with your tail between your legs.
You see DocHouse....it's easy to be a tough guy behind your keyboard.....but it takes ball and true conviction to standup for what you believe.
Shalom.....
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this is my first time posting here, although i have been a visitor to it for around a year.
after doing a simple google search under "jehovah'switnesses" over a year ago, i found ttat.
i was deeply unhappy with the congregation and decided to educate myself, and boy what an education i have gotten so far.
Marked for possible later use......never know.
Remember.....It's a freaking cult
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sorry guys i posted that the other day but with some of the actual post missing ,here it is again .please feel free to find errors,raise questions or fill me in with any more valueable information on the matter .i don't claim to know it all i'm just someone who's constantly looking for answers as most of you here :.
did jesus preach to the dead souls of people from noahs days?what does 1 peter 3:19, 20 mean?
in this state [in the spirit, following his resurrection] also he [jesus] went his way and preached to the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of god was waiting in noahs days, while the ark was being constructed, in which a few people, that is, eight souls [souls, kj, dy; people, tev, jb; persons, rs], were carried safely through the water.
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i updated the list of partakers to 2013 (see below)...if i was to predict as to what new light might be coming down the borg poop shoot may be.
i would predict that they need to do something about the 144,000 being a literal number.. for two reasons:.
1. the number of partakers is increasing every year.
I got the figures from the 2012 watchtower library and the JW.org website. took some research but it's there. after 1991 finding the information was harder because the writers or the GB didn't have much orignization that i could tell.
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i updated the list of partakers to 2013 (see below)...if i was to predict as to what new light might be coming down the borg poop shoot may be.
i would predict that they need to do something about the 144,000 being a literal number.. for two reasons:.
1. the number of partakers is increasing every year.
LOL, thats what i meant......point is the amount of money that is being spent and what needs to be done to maintain it.
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i updated the list of partakers to 2013 (see below)...if i was to predict as to what new light might be coming down the borg poop shoot may be.
i would predict that they need to do something about the 144,000 being a literal number.. for two reasons:.
1. the number of partakers is increasing every year.
I updated the list of partakers to 2013 (see below)...if I was to predict as to what new light might be coming down the BORG POOP SHOOT may be. I would predict that they need to do something about the 144,000 being a literal number.
for two reasons:
1. the number of partakers is increasing every year. ( how does the BORG explain this? They can't so they will come with new light "Oh we were given divine new insight and interpetation, the 144000 is not a literal number....nix the anointed and give all power to the FDS as Gods sole line of communication! and everyone partake if you feel your conciouse will let you.) (NOT)
2. the amount of money that was spent the last 3 years was astronomical. (see below)
Look at the difference between 1992 and 2012 the cost has quadrupled. Am I to believe the special pioneers and missionaries and TO's get that kind of cost of living over 10 years? Where is the money going? Freaking Theives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With all the lawsuits and having to pay for a new golden calf JW.ORG and the other stuff.....they can't afford to loose people. It is no wonder why they are selling off so much of there properties.
Please remember ALL.....IT'S A FREAKING CULT and CORPORATION!!!!!!! THEY ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT SALVATION....THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT MONEY and CONTROL!
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have you ever considered the anointed, the number of partakers at the memorial and the governing body together?
if you examine the number of partakers you can clearly see that sometimes the numbers increase.
i asked some jws about this and their reply was, "those are replacements for unfaithful ones".
I updated the list of partakers to 2013 (see below)...if I was to predict as to what new light might be coming down the BORG POOP SHOOT may be. I would predict that they need to do something about the 144,000 being a literal number.
for two reasons:
1. the number of partakers is increasing every year. ( how does the BORG explain this? They can't so they will come with new light "Oh we were given divine new insight and interpetation, the 144000 is not a literal number....nix the anointed and give all power to the FDS as Gods sole line of communication! and everyone partake if you feel your conciouse will let you.) (NOT)
2. the amount of money that was spent the last 3 years was astronomical. (see below)
Look at the difference between 1992 and 2012 the cost has quadrupled. Am I to believe the special pioneers and missionaries and TO's get that kind of cost of living over 10 years? Where is the money going? Freaking Theives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With all the lawsuits and having to pay for a new golden calf JW.ORG and the other stuff.....they can't afford to loose people. It is no wonder why they are selling off so much of there properties.
Please remember ALL.....IT'S A FREAKING CULT and CORPORATION!!!!!!! THEY ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT SALVATION....THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT MONEY and CONTROL!
GTTM
Year # and Memorial Partakers
1935..... 52465
1936..... 24850
1937 ?
1938..... 39225
1939 ?
1940..... 27711
1941 ?
1942 ?
1943 ?
1944 ?
1945..... 22328
1946 ?
1947 ?
1948 ?
1949..... 24312
1950..... 22723
1951..... 21619
1952..... 20221
1953..... 19183
1954..... 17884
1955..... 16815
1956..... 16302
1957..... 15628
1958..... 15037
1959..... 14511
1960..... 13911
1961..... 13284
1962..... 12714
1963..... 12292
1964..... 11953
1965..... 11550
1966..... 11266
1967..... 10981
1968..... 10619
1969..... 10368
1970..... 10500
1971..... 10384
1972..... 10350
1973..... 10523
1974..... 10723
1975..... 10550
1976..... 10187
1977..... 10080
1978..... 9762
1979..... 9727
1980..... 9564
1981..... 9601
1982..... 9529
1983..... 9292
1984..... 9081
1985..... 9051
1986..... 8927
1987..... 8808
1988..... 8685
1989..... 8734
1990..... 8869
1991..... 8850
1992..... 8683
1993..... 8693
1994..... 8617
1995..... 8645
1996..... 8757
1997..... 8795
1998..... 8756
1999..... 8755
2000..... 8661
2001..... 8730
2002..... 8760
2003..... 8565
2004..... 8570
2005…..8524
2006…...8758
2007…..9105
2008…...9986
2009……10857
2010……11202
2011……11824
2012….. 12604
2013…..13204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycb9blknu2g&list=uuzxbfewkkmm36zfo1xfkm7g.
this is a video from 1990 that waas posted about four years ago on randy watter's youtube channel.
it's long but reveals the emotions one experiences as they wake up and realize how much they've been misled and lied to by the organization who claimed to represent god.. thankfully jennifer's dad never gave up trying to give her a rewarding and fulfilling life.
it sounded like the mentioned the 2 books below and a foundation...
thus saith the governing body
griever bible
griever foundation
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