Welcome Drifting away....I am in the same boat. I have been for 2.5 years. all i could say is batten down the hatches. it's going to be a stormy ride.
Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hello, i have been lurking for a while, but discovered ttatt for about 8 months now.
i am trying to fade out, problem is i have a big family i would lose if i got df'ed or da,'ed myself.
my wife knows how i feel, and is not thrilled but i cant hide my feelings.
Welcome Drifting away....I am in the same boat. I have been for 2.5 years. all i could say is batten down the hatches. it's going to be a stormy ride.
Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my son asked me 40 years ago.
should we be glad adam sinned?
because if he hadn't, we would not be the person we are.. any opinions?
the story Adam and Eve is a made up fairytale. so answer me this, who were the parents of cain's wife?
where did his wife come from? yeah, it a made up story.
we eat turkey on thanksgiving why not rabbits on easter???
what's your traditional meal.
for easter??
so i am trying to gather some data so i could present to my wife.
i keep showing her john 6 where it states you need to partake of the bread and wine to be resurrected and in union with jesus and have everlasting life.. but, where in the bible does it say if you partake your going to heaven?
is this a wtbs twisting of scripture to fit there doctrine?.
Thanks for the info...i am really working the John 6 and John 5 chapters.
i plan to tell her next week that i have been doing research and can't find anywhere in the bible where ii points that if you partake, that you are going to heaven and ask her to do research and help me find in the bible where it states that if you partake that your going to heaven.
so i am trying to gather some data so i could present to my wife.
i keep showing her john 6 where it states you need to partake of the bread and wine to be resurrected and in union with jesus and have everlasting life.. but, where in the bible does it say if you partake your going to heaven?
is this a wtbs twisting of scripture to fit there doctrine?.
so i am trying to gather some data so i could present to my wife. i keep showing her John 6 where it states you need to partake of the bread and wine to be resurrected and in union with Jesus and have everlasting life.
but, where in the bible does it say if you partake your going to heaven? is this a WTBS twisting of scripture to fit there doctrine?
i do believe they are eliminating the 144000 and have changes in the works after hearing the past WT article.
remember, i only go on occasion to keep the peace. My wife know exactly how i feel, she knows i visit apostate sites, she know about the ARC...she saw the videos of Jackson herself. i think she has seen some apostate sites after i told her some stuff.
but, most importantly she knows how much i love her. i think this past study really did hit her, because not long ago i told her that the 144000 was not a literal number. And guess what, now she can't deny my prediction.
so, again...my question where does it say the partakers are going to heaven or that they are anointed.
this is mine....watch "coolio ft. l.v - gangsta's paradise (official music video)" on youtubehttps://youtu.be/cpgbzylnz7c
Since joining the cult in 08'.....the song that comes to mind is. " Hotel California".
you could check out any time you like, but, you can never leave.
i'm curious about the following:.
1) how long have you been a fader for?.
2) how often do you still get pressure from congregation members and/or family to return as an active witness?.
Sorry, did answer the questions properly.
1) How long have you been a fader for? Since 2014
2) How often do you still get pressure from congregation members and/or family to return as an active witness?Never, the only family is her mom and she has alzehmeirs, other than that her brother and sisters and all my family are not and want nothing to do with the cult. so leaving would be easy. She is the only brainwashed member.
3) What is the longest period you have ever known anyone to successfully fade? Sorry, i don't associate with nor have ever associated with dub's other than my wife. So, no answer.
4) If you have been a fader for more than two years, do you fear you would eventually have to face DA or DF?
If my mother in law was not alive, DAing or DFing would not matter. Even if they annouced it, i would not care. i practice reverse shunning.
5) As faders, how many of you are being treated as if you were DF'd/DA'd? Practice reverse shunning.
6) Have you faded rather than DA'd due to the possible loss family or is it because you have no network of friends outside the Org? all my friends have nothing to do with the cult. if my wife wasn't in. i would have told them to stick up there arses along time ago.
7) If you consider yourself a fader how many meetings/assemblies/ field service groups do you still attend on average per month?
8) As a fader do you feel that the Org is completely powerless over your life? They have no power over me!!!
i'm curious about the following:.
1) how long have you been a fader for?.
2) how often do you still get pressure from congregation members and/or family to return as an active witness?.
started my fade in 2014...and still trying to get out of hotel California. if my wife wasn't so in...this shite would have been done with along time ago.
so i have been thinking.
i know this is something taboo to the dubs, but f them.
i am a free moral agent.
So i have been thinking. I know this is something Taboo to the dubs, but F them. I am a free moral agent.
anyways, Why is the memorial on the 23rd? according to the Jewish calendar Nissan 14 is on Friday April 22nd.
According to the Gregorian Calendar it is March 22nd. So why the 23rd?
is this just a number they pulled out of there Arse and said " oh, here's a good date." No, they do things for a reason.
The sheeple will go along no matter what.
i believe in the past and present the GB practice numerology or better know has Gematria. in reality..it is an evil practice used for predictions.
Using the formula for Gematria in reference to the Jewish Calendar, this date (march 23rd ) is the holiday of Purim (which begins at sundown on March 23, 2016) will be the Purim of the Hebrew year 5776.
This date according to the bible code will signify the coming of the Messiah and start the end of days.here is the link i am referencing.
Conspiracy? hidden meaning for the date being the 23rd of March? or just a bunch of bunk like the dub's are!!!
i like a good conspiracy just like everyone else.
the initial conversation had to do with someone who has the ability to reason for them self's.
i than asked her.....why is the memorial in march and not in april when nissan 14 is?.
her response..."pray to jehovah for understanding.