Posts by OneEyedJoe

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iWitnesses?

by cappytan in

campaign of hate said this on another thread:.

they are quite clearly trying to copy the business model of apple.

it reminds me of the 2013 agm when they had an apple style technology section, focusing on the new jw apps.

I wonder if that explains why they're using mostly apple products for assembly halls and KH tech stuff. The guy inside apple might be using his sway with JWs to help his career and his career to gain power with the JWs.

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Is this what they are up to?

by Pistoff in

1. the meeting notes (which seem to be genuine, several sources now) for the ldc roll out talk about the need for 500, yes, 500 new halls.. 2. they are not interested in what property is available, but instead what is 'optimal', and are training couples to search for 'optimal' property.. 3. if the buildings did not have a sign that said jw .org (i refuse to give them a free link) and kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses, you could not tell it from a small bank or office building, just check the pictures.. .

this makes me think that a) they either need to build and sell commercial property very quickly, or they just want to build and sell commercial property very quickly.. .

think about this: to build a kingdom hall (church), you need a variance, whether commercial or residential.. i predict they will put these in primarily commercial locations, ie, 'optimal' locations.. .

OneEyedJoe

I wouldn't at all be surprised if immediately after having a new commercial building (Kingdom Hall) built with free labor that they sell it before a new congregation is even assigned there. The JW's won't even care, they'll be happy that headquarters gets all that money, truly a sign from God! Yuck!

It seems far-fetched at first, but when you really think about it, it wouldn't be that difficult to do, especially with the new LDC setup. They'll bring in volunteers from another area, build a KH that no one locally knows about, then send the volunteers away and sell it. The volunteers would never expect to see the KH again, and anyone local that heard about it would just assume that another congregation is using it. The buildings are generic, so if someone drives by it in it's new use, they would just assume that they were mistaken and the KH was somewhere else.

I wouldn't expect it to happen frequently, but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened occasionally to boost the bottom line.

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Sam's watch

by Slidin Fast in

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i just started to watch the february broadcast when i noticed a metallic rattle over the drone of sam's voice.

(does that man speak with a mouth full of chowin' tobacco or is he choking on the rubbish he reads off the autocue?).

yep it's his rolex.

OneEyedJoe

Regardless of whether it's a rolex or a knock-off or some other big brand's version of a rolex, weren't we always told as JWs that appearances matter? You can't be alone with someone your dating, not because you'll definitely have sex, but because it might look like you could've had sex. You don't wear flashy clothes to the KH even if they're cheap imitations because it looks like you're making a "showy display." It doesn't matter what it really is, or how he got it. What matters is that he's a televangelist wearing a gold watch that looks exactly like a $20k rolex, along with 2 gold rings.

I don't care if that watch came out of a box of cracker-jacks, his wearing it for a public appearance on the web is absolutely the height of hypocrisy.

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What really is the overall objective?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

one cant help but notice all of the dramatic changes thathave been happening to the organization.

this is not the religion that i grewup in.

im not saying that the religion that i grew up in was better, justdifferent.

OneEyedJoe

Yeah, it's all a bit much. I think they're just changing things just for the sake of change. It's like they're trying to emulate the hit TV shows these days - always a new plot twist, and the protagonist's goal is always just out of reach.

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Using the tv.jw.org as a wake up tool with my kids

by konceptual99 in

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so, i have been badgered recently to do some kind of family study by my wife.

thanks to tv.jw.org i now have a really easy tool to use that not only passes this time but actually makes them question the organisation.. our sessions skipping through the delights of the monthly broadcast have been very interesting.

derision at the wooden delivery of the gb.

OneEyedJoe

What a loving provision it is for these men to wear many rings. Just like god allowed isrealites of little means to offer a dove as a sacrifice, so too does the GB allow us to kiss their rings instead of their asses.

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Thank you...

by Garrett in

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some of you may have seen my previous post regarding my concerns with leaving the organization.. so many of you responded and were so kind and helpful, that is was rather overwhelming.

i didn't expect so many responses.

a lot of you also provided links to research as well as some books to read.

OneEyedJoe

Congrats on your new freedom and good luck with the beginning of the rest of your life!

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No such thing as history

by woodforde in

why do you think it is that wts limit accessibility to watchtowers and awakes to only issues since year 2000 on jworg?

a whiff of something slightly orwellian?

not a case of re-writing history but nixing it altogether?

OneEyedJoe

Wow, that is sneaky. And a strategy that they continue to employ. Look no further than the reasoning book's entry on false prophets - which excludes the scripture that clearly indicates that anyone predicting something in god's name that doesn't happen is a false prophet, even though an adjacent scripture is mentioned. Also, when you search for a scripture on the app or website, it sorts by frequency of use in the publications. So the embarrassing scriptures that they don't refer to fall to the bottom of a long search results page.

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Musical video on JW-TV February monthly program - must see !!

by Viva la Vida in

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you must see the musical video at the end of this month program (aprox.

at 1:04:30).... i don't like to use "must" but this is wow... if you think they couldn't get any lower... just be prepared...

OneEyedJoe

well i just watched it just so I could compare with cappytan's version. I really have no words.

Ugh and Herd afterwards - he really could use a personality transplant. It must take him a lot of concentration to read the teleprompter and not go off on misogynist rants.

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South Texas Introduction

by artsteel in

wow, amazing to read all these experiences.. luckily, i walked away from them 20 some odd years ago because i wasn't making it financially and decided to pursue higher education.

best decision i ever made.

i was able to finish my degrees and i still shake my head at how these people really believe, really mind boggling.. most family members and friends i knew stopped talking to me, and up to this day i'm glad they did.. .

OneEyedJoe

Welcome to the forum. It's always great to hear of another one that got away!

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No such thing as history

by woodforde in

why do you think it is that wts limit accessibility to watchtowers and awakes to only issues since year 2000 on jworg?

a whiff of something slightly orwellian?

not a case of re-writing history but nixing it altogether?

OneEyedJoe

Well there's that, plus wasn't it in the 60's Awakes that women's brains are smaller than men's thus they are less intelligent, or something like that?

I guess you're right. I'm probably allowing the way the quote affected me personally to impact my judgement of it's significance. If I'd been confronted with the blatant misogyny of the older literature as a loyal JW, I would've just dismissed it as having been influenced by popular views of the time. For others, though, it would've probably had a much larger effect.

I do wonder why they bothered to include the older WTs. Some of those have some pretty damning stuff in them too.