does anyone have a copy of the boe letter directing publishers to not go into apartment complexes and/or condominium complexes with no soliciting signs?
i ask because yesterday and buttheaded jw (that obviously had no idea who i am or my past) was knocking on doors in our condo complex.
he would have had to drive past a sign which clearly states "no solicitation or material distribution.".
I don't have the letter, but I distinctly remember that the policy is only that they don't go where there's a no trespassing sign. Because they are not selling, no soliciting signs do not apply to them. They are advised, though, that should it be indicated that a no soliciting sign is considered by the owner as applying to them, they should then excuse themselves.
Long story short, get a no trespassing sign.
if you were a jw and are now an atheist or agnostic, what was the tipping point that made you turn to it?.
the reason i ask is i have noticed that many who leave the jw's seem to turn to atheism, versus still having some form of a faith.
have many of you given up on god first or have you had atheistic views first and then found atheism to be true.
so, this week's sm has extracts from the yearbook.. the [police] chief turned to his assistant and said, in all my 32years of serving on the force, i have never heard anyonethank us for our work!.
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in our area, people thank the police daily, never mind in 32 years..
after sitting through last sunday's watchtower i got so sick of seeing the bobbing/nodding heads when talking about the pictures.
they act like god himself took the picture.
there must have been 10 comments about the group in service and the one brother was looking at his phone with a smile, which is a dead give away that he was reading something interesting.. what got me was how the older brother in the posed picture had a bible in his hand had a stern look on his face looking at the young brother.
" They act like God himself took the picture."
Lol!
The reverence for the pictures in the watchtower is something that always bewildered me. They'd give a comment about a picture as if the act of someone drawing something or staging a photo makes the situation depicted not only real, but the only possible outcome. Picture of some jw boy being friendly with a worldly girl next to one of her holding a pregnancy test? Just goes to show you can't be nice to worldly people without having unprotected sex and someone getting pregnant. The picture showed it, so it can't go another way. Ugh. Idiots.
for all the newbies and angry ones of the forum and other forums, is it beneficial to show your stand to indicate that numbers are dropping in the org rather than increasing?
this is to those who are in a position to do so.
i know many cannot due to family members in the org.
You might be counted in the "peak publishers" number for the year that you went inactive, depending on when you go inactive (i.e. you'll be counted if you turn in a report for August and that was the month they had their peak, otherwise you won't be). You'll be counted partially for that year in their "average publishers" number, i.e. if you turned in time for 6 months, you'll make up 0.5 publisher. After you've stopped turning in time for a full service year, you're no longer counted in any way.
The most important thing, though, is that nothing you do is going to change how you're counted. If you disassociate, you'd still be counted for the time that you turned in that year. So as far as tacitly bolstering their statistics you have nothing to worry about.
request for research help: .
several recent threads have gotten me started on an essay and i need some research help.
does anyone have access to anything the wt has ever published on intersex people (they might have used the now-outdated term: hermaphrodite)?
I have not been able to find much of anything of merit that the WTBTS has published on the subject.
You could say that about practically anything.
I don't remember ever hearing anything about this myself...I wonder if they might've been smart enough not to dive into the topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbb8rt2bem8.
some crazy cult language in this talk.. some highlights:.
18:15 - obey.
now this is a church an athiest would be really happy with.
hilarious!.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/flying_spaghetti_monster.
coucou,.
i hope you are well?!
i have a few questions that i'd like to adress (if you don't mind of course).
I was born-in
I first started questioning when I was ~13 and my first question was why it seemed that JWs were generally less intelligent than "worldly" people and shouldn't it be the smarter ones that are able to find the truth? Shouldn't it be concerning that we've made the same choice that people of clearly below average intelligence have made? Obviously that wasn't enough to push me out, but it was a start. Thinking about their cult-like behaviors (independent thinking and education discouraged, shunning, etc) made me think "that's a rule I'd implement if I were to start a cult." Then the failed generation teaching combined with some basic knowledge of the failures of 1914 and 1975 was what really set me into questioning that lead to find TTATT online.
Of course the fact that I am what a JW would call an apostate has crossed my mind.
All the ones that I saw getting converted had serious problems (mental illness, addiction, recent death of a spouse or divorce, etc). This just made me doubt more because I never saw anyone joining because the doctrine was well explained and they determined it to be the truth, they were joining because they had problems and needed support.
I was always pretty strong in my faith, in a way. I thought my faith was backed by firm evidence, so I guess I didn't consider it to be faith at all. I always wanted my beliefs to be in line with evidence, I just didn't know the evidence I'd received had been filtered and manipulated. It wasn't until I knew TTATT that I was looking for a way out. Up until that point, I was mostly looking for a way to silence my doubts so that I could stay a JW in good conscience.
As a kid I was the holier-than-thou type because I had a penchant for memorizing doctrine and explaining it. I could beat most adults at that game by the time I was a teenager. Through college I started to become more moderate (the more I learned in school the more I realized I didn't really know anything) and then after getting married and moving to a new congregation where I knew no one I became "spiritually weak" only getting the minimum in service and missing the occasional meeting. I'd started to see that JW stuff really didn't benefit me in any way and I had a lot of new responsibilities that I was better off attending to vs going to meetings or wasting my time walking up and down the street trying to recruit people into something I wasn't sure about myself.
inspiring, funny...you choose.... i'll start with inspiring: .
frodo: i wish the ring had never come to me.
i wish none of this had happened.gandalf: so do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide.
In the beginning the universe was created. This made a lot of people angry and has widely been considered as a bad move.
