OneEyedJoe

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  What's the status of this org financially?

  by megaboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  soooo... i think the main strength of this group is having the finances to keep this con game going.

  i'm hoping that the pedophilia cases are draining them dry so we can be rid of this stumbling block from an organizational stand point.

  how is the constant surge of bad news getting out on them effecting the everyday person in this organization?

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  Personally I think the financial problems are less to do with lawsuits (though those certainly don't help) and more to do with loss of donations as people realize that there's something wrong. Not that there's tons walking up, but I'm sure that there's a lot of people that are tired of the cash grabs, unnecessary renovations, demands that TVs and projectors be installed on the publisher's dime, not to mention the prophetic failures. Lack of funds is the first sign of lack of trust by the r/f
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  JW Version Of Spring Cleaning

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the january study edition second study article paragraph 10:.

  we can use the memorial season as an opportunity to look through our wardrobe, our movie and music collections, perhaps even the material stored on our computers, smartphones, and tablets.if i were going to a place where jesus would be present, would i feel uncomfortable wearing this clothing?if i did wear it, would it be obvious to all that i am a follower of christ jesus?would jesus be entertained by watching this movie or by listening to this music?

  if he borrowed my cell phone or tablet, would i be embarrassed by what he saw there?as you consider the subject matter of a video game, ask yourself: would i find it difficult to explain to jesus why i enjoy playing it?

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  perhaps even the material stored on our computers

  Clear your browser history, Jesus is coming!
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  2016 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the 2016 yearbook is now on the official site.

  pdf.

  it has been added to the archive of all prior yearbooks.

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  Interesting stats for the US, peak/average

  2014: 1,243,387/1,186,598

  2015: 1,231,867/1,195,081

  So while there was just shy of a 1% increase in average publishers, there was a decrease in the peak publishers by about the same percentage. Since they like to use the peak numbers to declare the number of JWs worldwide, is it fair to say that they're declining in the US? Even the increase in average publishers roughly matches the growth rate of US population, so they're doing an awful lot of preaching to merely keep pace.
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  Generation Teaching Hall of Shame chart

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a much simpler chart and replaces the old one which was getting too difficult to maintain.. direct link: http://oi68.tinypic.com/voy2qs.jpg.

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  That's terrific. I love how they go from using words like "prove" "beyond question" and "obviously" to "apparently" and "evidently" as time ticked by. What's the matter guys? Your new light coming through on a dimmer switch these days?
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  The Pain of Coming to a Decision

  by daniel-p in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been at least a couple years since i've posted anything on here, and much longer than that since when i was active.

  ten years ago i first came here all in turmoil over my disillusionment of my beliefs.

  i've been through lots of ups and downs since then.

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  Your words are all too relatable to me right now, even though I don't have kids. It's a immensely difficult thing just to think about. Just know that the situation you're in isn't a simple one and no decision that you make here is "bad".

  Wishing you all the best.
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  No Soliciting signage and JW Policy

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone have a copy of the boe letter directing publishers to not go into apartment complexes and/or condominium complexes with no soliciting signs?

  i ask because yesterday and buttheaded jw (that obviously had no idea who i am or my past) was knocking on doors in our condo complex.

  he would have had to drive past a sign which clearly states "no solicitation or material distribution.".

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  OneEyedJoe

  I don't have the letter, but I distinctly remember that the policy is only that they don't go where there's a no trespassing sign. Because they are not selling, no soliciting signs do not apply to them. They are advised, though, that should it be indicated that a no soliciting sign is considered by the owner as applying to them, they should then excuse themselves.

  Long story short, get a no trespassing sign.
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  What made you turn atheist or agnostic?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were a jw and are now an atheist or agnostic, what was the tipping point that made you turn to it?.

  the reason i ask is i have noticed that many who leave the jw's seem to turn to atheism, versus still having some form of a faith.

  have many of you given up on god first or have you had atheistic views first and then found atheism to be true.

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  If I'd been honest with myself, I would've identified as atheist a decade before I left the cult. The cult mind control was the only thing that kept me believing in the possibility of a god for that long. The thing that made me atheist was just thinking and learning about the the things that are often given as reasons God is necessary. Morality, existence of life, the existence of the universe, and a meaning to life. I realized that not only is god unnecessary to explain or provide necessary answers to these things but in many ways the hypothesis of god limits us on all these topics. At that point there just wasn't any need for god in my life.
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  No One Ever Thanks Police ??

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so, this week's sm has extracts from the yearbook.. the [police] chief turned to his assistant and said, in all my 32years of serving on the force, i have never heard anyonethank us for our work!.

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  in our area, people thank the police daily, never mind in 32 years..

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  Pictures in the Watchtower

  by Sour Grapes in

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  2. friends

  after sitting through last sunday's watchtower i got so sick of seeing the bobbing/nodding heads when talking about the pictures.

  they act like god himself took the picture.

  there must have been 10 comments about the group in service and the one brother was looking at his phone with a smile, which is a dead give away that he was reading something interesting.. what got me was how the older brother in the posed picture had a bible in his hand had a stern look on his face looking at the young brother.

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  " They act like God himself took the picture."

  Lol!

  The reverence for the pictures in the watchtower is something that always bewildered me. They'd give a comment about a picture as if the act of someone drawing something or staging a photo makes the situation depicted not only real, but the only possible outcome. Picture of some jw boy being friendly with a worldly girl next to one of her holding a pregnancy test? Just goes to show you can't be nice to worldly people without having unprotected sex and someone getting pregnant. The picture showed it, so it can't go another way. Ugh. Idiots.
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  If You Dont Disassociate Yourself, Are you Still Counted in Average Publishers on Annual Report?

  by truthlover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for all the newbies and angry ones of the forum and other forums, is it beneficial to show your stand to indicate that numbers are dropping in the org rather than increasing?

  this is to those who are in a position to do so.

  i know many cannot due to family members in the org.

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  OneEyedJoe

  You might be counted in the "peak publishers" number for the year that you went inactive, depending on when you go inactive (i.e. you'll be counted if you turn in a report for August and that was the month they had their peak, otherwise you won't be). You'll be counted partially for that year in their "average publishers" number, i.e. if you turned in time for 6 months, you'll make up 0.5 publisher. After you've stopped turning in time for a full service year, you're no longer counted in any way.

  The most important thing, though, is that nothing you do is going to change how you're counted. If you disassociate, you'd still be counted for the time that you turned in that year. So as far as tacitly bolstering their statistics you have nothing to worry about.