OneEyedJoe
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For those of us creationists who don't know anything about evolution
by truth doubter incofty- perhaps you would like to teach us the "first thing about evolution".. truth doubter .
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Jehovah's Witnesses the richest religion in the world..
by wwjdnwt ini don't post here too much..i am more of a lurker.
but, wanted to share recent conversation with jw family member.. one of my jw relatives recently went to visit another jw relative that is "serving where the need is great",.
when my jw relative returned home and i was talking with him, who is an older jw who has been in for over 50 years, was so excited to tell me about the special talk.
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OneEyedJoe
The claim that JWs are the richest religion is so completely absurd I don't even know where to start in reacting to someone making it. -
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Why Do Intelligent People Believe in God?
by cantleave inone of the most common thing thrown at atheists is - lots of intelligent people believe in god.
this darkmatter 2525's video is an excellent explanation as to why very logical people possess religious belief systems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y201qzddzbg.
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OneEyedJoe
But I disagree, your ridiculous claim is that I was indoctrinated to believe in God, but my parents are both agnostic and atheist. So your claim is not supported by the evidence.
His claim was general, your specific example is anecdotal.
Lol hahaha very good. Einstein believed in God
It's very well documented that Einstein used "god" as a metaphor. He was, at best, agnostic.
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So , how "worldly" did you get?
by greenhornet ini even hate to use that word worldly tm.. any way i'm probably the worst.. 1 when the jw s come to my door i say i'm not interested .
2 i have gone to many churches and volunteered.. 3 i shredded all my jw books and magazines out in the woods.. 4 had the mormon elders over and studied with them.. 5 tried pot (its legal here).
6 open carry my fire arm every where (legal here also).
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OneEyedJoe
I've burned my cult bibles and some books
When I was still going to meetings I took 15-30 magazines per meeting and threw them away in the bathroom
I've smoked (only a couple times socially, have no intention of getting hooked) and want to try weed.
I'm atheist, so I haven't gotten involved in any churches or anything like that. But I have been doing a lot of reading on physics/cosmology/evolution, etc so maybe that counts as something.
As far as using the word worldly, I insist on correcting my wife every time she says it. The correct term is "normal." She protested the first time but had to concede that normal people definitely have the numbers on JWs and that's what defines normal, so there's really no argument.
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What do you think is the source of your consciousness? Can it be copied or transferred?
by EndofMysteries inthis seems to be a question that even scientifically is still in the air.
right now your consciousness, is it the physical part of the brain?
the electrical signals in the brain?
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OneEyedJoe
It seems that this is more a discussion of theseus' paradox than it is anything to do with consciousness specifically. -
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What do you think is the source of your consciousness? Can it be copied or transferred?
by EndofMysteries inthis seems to be a question that even scientifically is still in the air.
right now your consciousness, is it the physical part of the brain?
the electrical signals in the brain?
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OneEyedJoe
Consciousness is an emergent property of a very complex system made up of small pieces that follow simple rules. Just like a flock of birds or a school of fish seems to be something more than the sum of its parts, so does consciousness. But that doesn't mean it actually is something more. -
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Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?
by William Penwell inin your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?
over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.
i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.
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OneEyedJoe
Mostly it "attracts" people who were born to JW parents. Then the JW upbringing probably creates a lot of dysfunctional personality traits in people. Though I will say that literally every convert I've met is either obviously a little "off" or they have some past that makes them an obvious mark for a cult (alcoholic, displaced by natural disaster, immigrant with no local family, etc).
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"You don't go to church in a Kingdom Hall"
by stephanie61092 in"you don't go to church in a kingdom hall" was stated during the public talk yesterday.
the speaker then elaborated that "people who go to church, go to fulfill a spiritual obligation.
coming to the kingdom hall is coming to learn.
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OneEyedJoe
Was he suggesting that there are JWs that go to meetings for any reason other than obligation? Alls I know is that anytime there's snow on the ground and meeting gets canceled, no one is disappointed. -
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The Pope is more like Christ than the GB
by StarTrekAngel injust a quick line to share something i heard in the news yesterday.
while we may disagree with many of the doctrines of the catholic church, there was something interesting.. the subject was regarding the view by the church on abortion and contraceptives.
while the pope insisted in the absolute and immutable evil of terminating a pregnancy, he said that considering the risks presented by the zika virus, women in south america should consider contraceptives to prevent unwanted pregnancies that could end up in a child born with defects.
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OneEyedJoe
I like this pope. I mean he still pushes a bronze age superstition, but at least he's almost a humanist in going about it. He even once said that atheists will go to heaven if they're good people. So no need to accept jesus into your hearts, just don't be a dick. -
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Has anyone else collected their money back from local Kingdom Halls for money loaned for construction?
by StoneWall injust a reminder if you haven't, to get it back before they sell any more halls.even if you're currently da/df you can still collect any monies owed you by the kingdom hall as far as loans go.we were able to get back $1000 that my mom had loaned the local hall for a loan to build new one.it was documented by the paper that had been given each publisher back then on how much they could/would be willing to give as an outright donation or a loan.
the loan was to be paid back whenever the publisher requested it.
(not a specific date)i can't help but feel that a lot of the old timers that loaned monies to the society and/or k-halls have been forgot about by them or their families.
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OneEyedJoe
The loan was to be paid back whenever the publisher requested it. (not a specific date)
That's clever. It appears as though they're being super flexible (certainly more flexible than "worldly" institutions which would agree to a rigid payment plan) and making sure you'll be able to get the money back should you have an urgent need, but in reality it puts the ball in the JW's court for securing payment and forces them to do go through the uncomfortable act of asking for money. And especially for small loans, they're sure to be forgotten.
How terribly manipulative.