While I wouldn't say I missed it, I was absent from the memorial for the first time in 30 years. Wife went without me - actually made something of an evening of it - wasn't home when I got back from work and didn't get home until 10:30 or so. I guess they had a party at her parent's house.
OneEyedJoe
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Didn't go to memorial this year
by silent inmy wife and i had business to attend to out of town today and i had thought if we made it back home in time, we'd go to the memorial.
as it turned out, we didn't get home in time and we missed it, but we had a real good talk with each other on the way home.
we are largely successful faders and at the very least, i like to try and make the memorial.
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Easter, the memorial ... is there any worthwhile message for secularists?
by Ruby456 inan innocent man killed in the most awful manner replayed countless time all over the world has desire for justice writ large all it.
is this something that secularists can take from a religious event.
i think so.
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OneEyedJoe
It's the closest thing to a holiday that the JWs celebrate, that right there should probably tell you something. Normal christians have managed to make it about family, which is probably something to take away from it, as is the (pagan) celebration of life that has become associated with it. The real christian meaning behind it (that people don't bear responsibility for their sins due to a human sacrifice made centuries ago) though is offensive to me. -
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Wearing a Guy Fawkes mask outside a JW Convention.
by SonoftheTrinity ini don't want my wife recognizing me, but i feel like making an anti-jw scene.
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OneEyedJoe
I agree with Village idiot and cofty. There are better ways to wake people up than to try while they're in full cult mode and in front of thousands of people that could potentially report them for showing an interest in anything you might have to say. You'll only end up confirming their persecution complex.
Your time is better spent enjoying your life. If you're going to try to wake someone up, do it when they're in their 'authentic persona' as that's the only time you'll be able to find an opening.
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Did You Get Invited to the Memorial?
by Ding ini'm just wondering if jws keep inviting you back or if they've given up on you.. they haven't invited me for years..
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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program
by thedepressedsoul inwow this is interesting!
i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.
they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.
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OK, I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking they've really turned a corner here. They always stick to a theme pretty hard, but I don't think I've ever seen it like this. This is insane. Is the word "loyal" going to be the new "truth" that JWs will find a way to work into every sentence? My mother-in-law actually started talking about loyalty a couple years ago when there was a CO talk on it, so maybe that's where they're headed. Someone said repeating the word causes it to loose meaning, but that's actually not completely right - it looses some of the meaning consciously, but subconsciously it becomes a powerful thought-stopper...that's what the cult loaded language is all about. I wonder if that's where this is headed.
The talk on shunning followed by a talk on forgiveness actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it. The theme isn't really about their behavior, it's about obedience. The talks are essentially - shun who we tell you to shun and be subservient to those we tell you to follow (even though they've wronged you). If you think it doesn't make sense to talk about shunning and forgiveness in one breath, it's because you're taking it at face value - it's really about control. They want you to obey no matter what, so they give you examples on opposite ends of the spectrum and the only common thread (and therefore the conclusion those listening will come to, whether consciously or otherwise) is that you must do whatever you're told by the cult leadership.
I'm in awe of this. This seems like they've gone into cult overload, and I really don't think it only seems that way because I'm sorta freshly out. In the 2 years I've been awake, I don't think I've seen anything like this.
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"M" is for "Memorial"
by OnTheWayOut inmany weeks ago, i apparently put "m" on today's date- wednesday, march 23rd, in my google calendar.
it was supposed to remind me that the memorial that jehovah's witnesses observe would be held today.
i was flipping through my calendar this past weekend and asked my wife "what in the world is 'm' for (that day)?
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OneEyedJoe
This will be my first time not attending. Got the ol' 2-elder visit and they practically begged me to come (lots of "I'd really love to see you there" sort of thing, I mostly just replied "ok" in a way that said "that doesn't change anything") but I told them I wasn't planning on attending.
Don't have anything planned for the evening. Will probably just treat it like another day, only the wife won't be home for part of it.
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Am l the only one.?The older l become the more hostile l become towards god.
by atomant inthey say you mellow out with age.maybe so but not in my case.l feel its an insult and degrading to us humans to have to live the way we do if there is a god.deep down l guess l do believe theres a god but lm having great difficulty trying to understand why things are the way they are.l dont need a bible bashing from anyone l just feel frustrated and helpless.l just battle on like everyone else but l get the feeling theres a whole lot more to our existence.
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Why dont you go to the memorial?
by atomant inl guess we all have our own reasons and thought it would give insight to others considering going to reconsider and not go.
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Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists
by cofty ini thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.
answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .
1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?
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OneEyedJoe
I always get the typical answer of "because jehovah made it that way" so much bullshit
Easy rrebuttal: the bible says god cannot lie - wouldn't creating fossils, genetic evidence, vestigial features, and all the other evidence that fits EXACTLY as evolution predicts be considered lying if evolution did not in fact take place?
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God said be fruitful and multiply,fill the earth and govern it.
by atomant inl have a problem with this.lf adam and eve didnt sin the earth would eventually have been full to the brim with perfect human beings.then what every man gets the chop or no more sex?then on the other hand we have the jw's sayingresurrected ones will not be allowed to marry in the earthly new system.. married survivors of armageddon will remain married.
single survivors of armageddon may or may not be allowed to marry.so it seems that people reborn into new system wont be able to procreate.
and married survivors will stay married so l assume that means they can still hanky panky and have babys thats a bit unfair..the earth can only accommodate a maximum number of humans then what for the married couples.
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OneEyedJoe
Sometimes I wonder if god telling Adam and Eve to "go forth and multiply" was a generous translation. Maybe he was tired of dealing with them and what he really said was "fuck off."