Posts by OneEyedJoe

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I just don't understand this, what am I missing???

by Greybeard in

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as i am watching this video about changes at bethel, the speaker said, "aren't we glad the faithful and discrete slave continues to make adjustments when necessary.

what about this change?

"finally, we examined why jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" that is from this online watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/ .

OneEyedJoe

You're missing that they don't really care that everything makes logical sense. In fact, it's an advantage if it doesn't. It forces people that really dig into things to come to a logical contradiction on small things and trains them to get used to discarding their own reason and yielding to the cult.

I think the official doctrine is something like this: Jesus appointed 3 slaves to look over his crap, the ones that did so in a wise manner were declared to have been "faithful and discrete" and at that point they are appointed over "all his belongings." Right now the GB is merely appointed to look after things and assuming they do a good job they'll be declared the FDS. Since they've been using the term FDS for so long, though, they find it convenient to continue this usage as an assertion of their authority.

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Clicking avatar thumbnails to be taken to latest posts

by OneEyedJoe in

it looks like the ability to click on the avatar thumbnails in order to go straight to the most recent posts of a topic is no longer working for me.

is this gone forever or will it be back at some point?

it definitely made navigation much easier, especially for longer threads..

OneEyedJoe

Perfect! Thanks for the quick response!

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Clicking avatar thumbnails to be taken to latest posts

by OneEyedJoe in

it looks like the ability to click on the avatar thumbnails in order to go straight to the most recent posts of a topic is no longer working for me.

is this gone forever or will it be back at some point?

it definitely made navigation much easier, especially for longer threads..

OneEyedJoe

Cool, thanks!

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Clicking avatar thumbnails to be taken to latest posts

by OneEyedJoe in

it looks like the ability to click on the avatar thumbnails in order to go straight to the most recent posts of a topic is no longer working for me.

is this gone forever or will it be back at some point?

it definitely made navigation much easier, especially for longer threads..

OneEyedJoe

It looks like the ability to click on the avatar thumbnails in order to go straight to the most recent posts of a topic is no longer working for me. Is this gone forever or will it be back at some point? It definitely made navigation much easier, especially for longer threads.

Edit:

Maybe it's not gone completely, but it seems to have been changed such that I cannot open the link in a new tab.

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Detroit TV station expose' on JWs

by Emma in

here's a link to a brief but good, four-minute piece on jehovah's witnesses.

wdiv in detroit filmed it.

there's a place for comments so please add helpful info.

OneEyedJoe

Love that they grouped them in with scientology with regard to the shunning.

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"Just don't overthink the truth"

by stuckinarut2 in

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so after almost a year of complete inactivity and non attendance, i ran into a nice brother from the local congregation.. after some nice chit-chat, he says "we really miss you and your family...etc...you were always the kind and supportive one, the approachable and encouraging one in the congregation.

your absence has confused so many".

i thanked him and said "oh no, no individual has stumbled us.

OneEyedJoe

When I had a discussion with my father-in-law about the reasons for my inactivity he referred to me several times as "computer brained" because I'm logical and have a good memory. He said I was in the same category as someone else he knew that was "computer brained" and had left the cult. Over the course of the conversation he remembered 3 other (4 total) people that he would put in the same category and all had left the cult. You'd think that would tell him something.

If someone told me not to overthink the truth, I would respond by saying I'd just stopped underthinking life.

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Challenge to Creationists

by cofty in

in response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.

predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.

entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.

OneEyedJoe

OneEyedJoe, the fact that we cannot reproduce the processes in a lab says a lot. What is the chances that it'll take place in the primordial soup? Cells decay and die when they finish their life cycle, they don't improve themselves and turn into a superior cell. That's contrary to nature

You betray a lack of understanding of both how evolution works and the timescales involved.

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Challenge to Creationists

by cofty in

in response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.

predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.

entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.

OneEyedJoe

Conversely, it doesn't rule out the possibility that it happened supernaturally.

My point was that the challenge Cofty presented was for someone to provide evidence for creation, not more unsubstantiated hypotheses that do less to satisfy occam's razor than does evolution.

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JW Broadcasting is the likely end of the road for JWs

by oldskool in

i started leaving the group in 04', and quit following what they do around 08'.

my recent posts express my reaction to what has happened since.. i just "tuned in" to the jw broadcasting episode for may 2016. it is worth a viewing.

gb member anthony morris describes what is basically the thrust of why this entire effort exists.

OneEyedJoe

You make a great point about real-life experiences. Growing up as a JW, and looking back (even before I left) I realized that there was literally nothing in my life that was good that was because I was a JW. The only reason I was a JW was because I was scared they might be right. If that's the only thing keeping you in, you're much more likely to actually examine the question of whether or not they're right - if they bring benefits NOW (instead of just the claimed benefit of surviving armageddon) it would make people much less likely to even start questioning whether it's true. Most people are, at a basic level, practical about such things - even if it's not true if it benefits you to be a JW you'd not bother looking at whether it's true or not.

Of course they love to tout that being a JW is the "best way of living" and that they're the "happiest people on earth" but I suspect that most who've grown up as a JW have had some serious reservations about those two claims at one time or another. They rely solely on indoctrination to keep the kids going, and that's a weakness for them - if they reinforced it with some (even just a token) actual benefits I think it would keep a lot more kids trapped in the cult. The problem is that said benefits cost money/time that could be better used if donated to the central org, and therefore it is seen as a waste to do anything like that.

I'm glad that they're failing so miserably to retain the youth.

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Challenge to Creationists

by cofty in

in response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.

predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.

entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.

OneEyedJoe

Vidqun - where is your evidence though? There's no evidence that eukaryotes were introduced by an intelligence - our inability to recreate their evolution in controlled conditions is not evidence that it did not happen naturally at some point.