Posts by OneEyedJoe

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St. Louis police are asking for your help in finding a man who set fire to the Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses

by Sol Reform in

st. louis (kmox) - st. louis police are asking for your help in finding a man who set fire to the kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses at 2428 north grand.. the fire occurred saturday september 13th at 6:15 a.m.. a surveillance camera recording shows a suspect: a white male with a beard and mustache wearing a green jacket and coveralls.. anyone with information is asked to call crimestoppers at 866 371 tips.. man sought for setting fire to jehovahs witness building.

man sought for setting fire to jehovahs witness buildin... fire was set at 2428 north grand early saturday.

view on www.thenewscommen.... preview by yahoo.

OneEyedJoe

Skin - my kh has 3 cameras outside and one in the lobby.

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Why are alot of JW's Fascinated with Sci-Fi?

by NoMoreHustle in

i am still in & gradually fading.

i have always wondered why alot of jw's that i know are really into alot of sci-fi stuff like star wars, i robot, x-men stuff etc.

i mean they take it another level with this fantasy stuff.

OneEyedJoe

Being a jw sucks pretty hard, so it's not surprising that a good number want to escape into an alternate reality.

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Topics Ive Been Pondering On

by JWINQUESTION in

this is my first post on here so bear with me.

currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

OneEyedJoe

On the topic of research, I would reccommend jwfacts.com

If you're like me, you'll start out reading it and verifying that all the references are honest and fair. After a while you'll start to trust the site. I was unable to find anything that was unfair or in any way false.

Good luck on your journey towards real truth.

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Topics Ive Been Pondering On

by JWINQUESTION in

this is my first post on here so bear with me.

currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

OneEyedJoe

The thought in my head of gay people dying because of increasing STDS due to their sexual lifestyle saddens me. That is why I don't condone the practice.

Try this for a little perspective:

The thought in my head of children dying because of car accidents due to their parent's choice to use a car for transportation saddens me. That's why I don't condone driving.

Everything in life has risks. Some risks you may not be willing to accept, but others you may be. The risks you accept may be different from the risks others accept. That's just the way it is. You have no more responsibility to warn homosexuals of the risks of their lifestyle than your responsibility to warn people of the risks of commuting to work in a car. Most homosexuals view their sexual orientation as vital to their existence, and are thus unlikely to stop regardless of knowing the risks. There's no need to be a downer and spend your life warning everyone about the risks of everything they enjoy.

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Topics Ive Been Pondering On

by JWINQUESTION in

this is my first post on here so bear with me.

currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

OneEyedJoe

Welcome!

It is just when I see many (not all) posters and ex JW’s curse, I wonder is this how I am going to end up like after I leave.

If/when you leave, you'll only do what feels right to you. I had similar objection upon my first perusal of this site, but realized that it's just people being who they are, and everyone has different values and reacts differently to "waking up" to the truth about 'the truth.' Please remember, too, that many folks here have been visciously and irreprably injured by the policies of the watchtower society. Many have lost loved ones due to the (unscriptural) blood doctrine, some have been molested and had their attacker defended and covered up by the society. A large portion here have also lost loved ones to the unscriptural and painful practice of shunning. All this (and more) can understandably cause a great deal of anger and resentment that sometimes is difficult to express in a cathardic way without the use of a swear or two.

I’ve noticed a lot of former JW’s have become either Atheists or Agnostics. To be honest, I can’t see accept those beliefs either. Let’s say I had a son who was only a baby that died a six months, am I wrong to believe that I would see him or do I need to accept the cold reality that I never will? Because I hear Atheists say live your life to the full now and do what makes you happy but what about if we were talking about a baby or a young child that died, even a young adult who didn’t even began to live their life?

Yes, there are a lot of atheists and agnostics here. I believe there is a post somewhere with a Pew poll regarding religion that found that of the 2/3rds of born-in JWs that leave, roughly half become atheist/agnostic. This is somewhat understandable, if you consider what someone goes through upon leaving the JW religion. Upon finding that they've been systematically lied to (many for their entire lives) in the name of God can certainly cause someone to question the existance of any god. Also, the realization that you've been lied to for so long can often lead someone to resolve in their hearts not to accept anything without evidence. That is a road that often leads to atheism. If you stick and engage in some of the lively debate that goes on here, you may find some of your posts are debated by atheists. What you probably won't find, however, is someone here coercing you to become atheist by causing your family to shun you otherwise.

Regarding the homosexuality issue, if it were okay then why can’t two people of the same sex produce a child? And after reading a recent 2014 article (Not a JW or religious article) about gay sex, it states that gay sex has been leading to increasing sexual diseases even to those who use protection. It seems that most people on here are okay with gay marriage. Of course, it is also wrong for me to hear on news how some anti-gay extremists go to far and kill off or murder gay people. That is horrible and something that makes me sick to the stomach to hear gay people being murdered like that. However, I am the kind of person who wouldn’t condone the practice not just because of religious issues but the increasing related diseases that has been associated with gay sex.

Assuming homosexual practices cause all manner of ill concequences upon the practicer (this is debatable, but let's make the assumption for the sake of argument) what does that mean for you? I'm assuming you don't identify as homosexual, so who cares what gay people do? Upon waking up to the full scope of the lies that you once believed, you may find that you're unwilling to condem other people who aren't hurting anyone (except, perhaps, themselves) based on beliefs that might be wrong. What two consenting adults do in private is no business of mine, and it certainly has nothing to do with the moral charecter of those adults in any areas in which I might have dealings with them. Because of this, I find it impossible and morrally unconscionable to condem homosexuals.

Welcome to the forum, I hope you stick around. You sound like a thinking person that's out to find what the real truth is, and this site has certainly been a help to many in that regard. It's also a tremendous support to many (myself included) as it can feel like the floor is falling out from under you the more you learn.

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ALIENS!! (and the downfall of religion)

by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

let me clarify, when i say aliens, i don't mean shiny helmeted spaceship dwelling anal probers.

(although i could be proved wrong).

if any alien lifeform was found on mars or another planet or even a comet, be it tiny bacteria or even some form of non carbon based life form, would that not destroy religions grip on mankind?

OneEyedJoe

as keyser soze said, religious people are already overlooking abundant evidence discovered right here on earth, so why would this be any different?

People still believe humans have only been around for 6000 years, in spite of hard evidence that they've been around for a few orders of magnitude longer. A few microbes on mars would be relatively easy to dismiss.

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Crazy Sounding Story

by piztjw in

last sunday after sitting through the ca an eldurr whom i know related this story about the warwick compound construction, as related to him by someone who had just returned from their tour of duty.. "the property is over-run with rattlesnakes.

so there are assigned brothers who catch and release them off property.

they won't kill them.

OneEyedJoe

Well, what cult compound would be complete without a wall to "keep snakes out?"

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The 7/14 APOSTATE study articles are preparing the rank and file for new light!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

i believe the last two wt studies in the 7/14 wt study articles were planned for this exact time and did not come about by happenstance... the jw cult is preparing the rank and file for some faith altering "new light" to be announced fairly soon, and these scare tactics will do just the trick.... the articles are preparing the rank and file to become apostataphobic, they have the rank and file in such a frenzy, even have them questioning themselves and their own motives for being in the borg!.

with paragraphs like:.

if you hear someone that has doubts or questions about the borg avoid them like the plague, and tell your local elders, but don't judge them!!!.

OneEyedJoe

My guess is that they're simply preparing for the (uneventful) end of 2014. That's sure to leave many doubting. I'm sure that there are a good number of people (I myself did this at one point) that have doubts and said they'd give it till 2014 (on the rough estimation that a generation could last no longer than 100 years) and if nothing has happened they'll reevaluate.

My theory, though, is that articles like this that stress how to treat those who might be appostates in the congregation aren't for the fully indoctrinated believers. These articles are to send a message to the doubters that they'd better keep quiet and stay in line or they'd effectively be shunned. With a system like that, you could have a congregation where everyone has the same doubts but they're all too afraid to say anything.

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Today's WT study!. Watch out for the "wicked" in the cong!

by stuckinarut2 in

how strange today's study was!.

warning examples of apostacy, and saying to all witnesses "watch for bad associations in the cong".

talk about paranoia and distrust amongst themselves!.

OneEyedJoe

CC - nicely done. I always want to do something like that, but it's too much trouble to do all the research, just to have everyone miss the point.

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Today's WT study!. Watch out for the "wicked" in the cong!

by stuckinarut2 in

how strange today's study was!.

warning examples of apostacy, and saying to all witnesses "watch for bad associations in the cong".

talk about paranoia and distrust amongst themselves!.

OneEyedJoe

Oh I'm well aware that it's a cult, but I've always been annoyed at the unspoken rule that men be clean shaven. I've already begun to have a bit of stubble for all meetings, and my objective is to work up to having a beard of a few day's growth (how I prefer to look, and how I look between meetings). Now I've got a quote right from the WT that would call anyone who wants to fight me on it unwise. Worst case I stir up a little trouble, best case I can drop one of the WTS's restrictions before I can make my exit.