Posts by OneEyedJoe

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AGM 2014 - How are faders gonna hide in plain sight anymore?

by tootired2care in

so two big changes in the org were announced in the most recent agm.. local needs part is replaced by "how do you know the truth" where all members will tell their experience (oh what fun).

basic pioneer role 10 only hours a month required (see, jehovah lightens our load, therefore he loves only us)!.

it seems like they have really turned up the heat here.

OneEyedJoe

Gotta have a plan... Only way to stay sane.

This won't hurt faders at all - jws are trained from infancy to "fake it till you make it" (ie lie) all faders have to do is apply the same training and fake it till you're out. Though, for me, I think it's best to just casually resist and try to get myself pushed out.

In my view, lying works of you're dependant on jws for some reason, but if you're just trying to stop wasting 6 hours a week (counting time spent getting ready and driving) on being a hipocrite without completely alienating your spouse, you just use everything as an excuse to be stumbled. At least that's the current plan... Hopefully it works out.

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New JW TV will be the best thing ever for apostates! Do you agree?

by Wasanelder Once in

here's my prediction; the gov body giving regular talks will come across as crazy ass idiots.

this will strengthen the opposition and give something to refer too that is concrete evidence of crazy town in the jw headquarters.

there will be screen captures and clips that will be used all the time on youtube accounts to show the ttatt.

OneEyedJoe

Unfortunately it won't help much for people in my situation. My wife is a social jw, never really puts in much effort, doesn't pay attention to doctrine, etc. Unless there's some issue with the social aspect of it all (and I can't imagine what that would be in our situation) it seems unlikely she'll ever wake up.

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Gog of Magog is still SATAN!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

during the public discourse today the brobot talked about the gog of magog, and he stated that he was satan!!!

i had to ask my wife if i heard him correctly, and she said yes he said it is satan.... i couldnt wait to run up to the brobot after the meeting and inform him of he "new light" we just recieved yesterday!!!

when i approached him i asked him : what is gog of magog?

OneEyedJoe

I honestly never understood why they made such a big deal about keeping changes secret until the conventions/AGM. If were to keep calling it the truth, shouldn't they update us the moment they figured something out and needed to change something?

Now that I see the truth about the cult, it makes sense - they want to put butts in seats and get those wallets open. I never got excited about noo-light before anyway, it was always inconsequential and arbitrary. Now I realize that it's just a tease - the r/f know there'll be something new at the convention, and they're all secretly hoping it'll be a new date ala 1975. Every year they get excited for nothing, then say to themselves better luck next year.

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AGM 2014 - How are faders gonna hide in plain sight anymore?

by tootired2care in

so two big changes in the org were announced in the most recent agm.. local needs part is replaced by "how do you know the truth" where all members will tell their experience (oh what fun).

basic pioneer role 10 only hours a month required (see, jehovah lightens our load, therefore he loves only us)!.

it seems like they have really turned up the heat here.

OneEyedJoe

This may be a blessing in disguise. Us faders probably do (at best) 2 hrs a month, so trying to get us to make a 5-fold increase is still a pretty big push. If I'm pressured, I'll push back and say something along the lines of "I was doing all I could before the basic pioneer thing, and I'll continue to do so. I'm not interested in titles or the recognition of having my name read on stage, so even if I could get 60hrs a month, I wouldn't sign up as a pioneer"

As for the new service meeting parts, any excessive pressure to participate will just be an excuse not to go to mid-week meetings. I have very real social handicaps that my wife is aware of, and any direct pressure to participate is a great excuse to claim that the meetings just cause me to much anxiety.

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Prediction- JW's will create their own Social Network Site

by Skinnedsheep in

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with their advancement into web based programming and their soon to be broadcast meetings the need for a physical meeting place is quickly diminishing.

i predict that the large scale sell-of of kingdom halls will begin in the next few years as the people get their meetings online.

the one thing that would be missed with a liquidation of kh halls is "upbuilding" association which will force the society into creating a jw social media app which will not only allow for association but close monitoring of the pubs.

OneEyedJoe

I could see this happening, but only if people are given accounts by elders. There no way they could allow for the possibility of someone putting fourth an opinion with no possible repercussions. Anonymous discussion is something totalitarian regimes cannot tolerate, because it would give dissenters a (legitimized) forum.

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TV.JW.ORG is coming!

by Oubliette in

OneEyedJoe

I agree , they'll never be able to stream all the meetings. Cults are primarily social constructs, without the social element of the meetings, it would fall apart. If you don't have a group of peers to guilt trip you about missing meetings, why go?

Most likely, they'll use the TV.jw crap in a similar way that they use the DVDs, etc now - there'll probably be a monthly q/a part on the service meeting to make sure everyone watched....I mean.... to discuss that month's talk.

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TV.JW.ORG is coming!

by Oubliette in

OneEyedJoe

The 144,000 club! Lol! I'm so using that when I "officially"find out about this

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Nimrod: Fact or fiction

by dugout in

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nimrod and the tower of babel-is this history or biblical myth.

god confused their lauguges?.

sounds quite comical when you think about it.

OneEyedJoe

So I try to understand and make sense of the way God does things.

I think this is a large part of the problem...when faced with the inadequecies of a religious text, those that hold that text as holy always try to "make sense" of it - i.e. rationalize/justify it. The god of the hebrew scriptures was an unmitigated asshole, but the capability of humans to rationalize away the flaws in themselves, their beliefs, and those that they love knows no bounds.

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Nimrod: Fact or fiction

by dugout in

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friends

nimrod and the tower of babel-is this history or biblical myth.

god confused their lauguges?.

sounds quite comical when you think about it.

OneEyedJoe

What he didnt want them to accomplish was stay there and grow.

He wanted them to grow throughout the earth

But they most certainly would have spread though the entire earth without him screwing with their languages. If that's not the case, how do you explain spanish-speaking people in the americas? How do you explain english-speaking people in the US and canada (and all over the world, for that matter)? People are going to spread out and explore regardless. Did god really need to act to cause people to spread out, or was he just impatient and didn't want to wait another couple centuries? Why was it so urgent that he cause people to spread out right then?

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How Much Drinking Is Too Much?

by minimus in

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i have seen that some say if a man has 3 beers per day or a woman has 2 glasses of wine per day, that they may have .

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OneEyedJoe

I do think some people look at any alcohol consumption means you have a problem.

I know a few people like this. They all have one thing in common - they don't like the taste of alcohol. To them the only feasible reason to drink is to get drunk, so any drinking means you have a problem.

I, on the other hand, weep for those who can't appreciate a good glass of scotch. They know not what they're missing.