OneEyedJoe

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  How is Joe Publisher reacting to all the TV coverage on the abuse cases?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please pardon if this a repeated topic.

  i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.

  she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.

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  OneEyedJoe

  I would guess that 95% of them are completely unaware.
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  Wife fully awake.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i learned this past week that my wife is now awake.

  i just shared the pbs newshour segment with her with no comment other than something along the lines of, "jw story on pbs.".

  she is furious at the arrogance of these men.. thats what happens when you get a momma angry!.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Lucky bastard! Way to go! So happy to see couples beating this cult intact!
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  Official Website of the Cult Diverts to Arabic Version?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  or is it my browser?.

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  For some reason I've had that happen to be several times over the past few months, but it's always Spanish for me. Guess someone should've sprung for a little satanic higher education. Or maybe it's based on the most popular language choice in the area - I don't there's any growth in the English-speaking sector of Scotland. Do you have a large Arabic community? All the (barely worth mentioning) growth here is in foreign-language groups, the biggest being Spanish.
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  How many of you actually "contributed"?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys,.

  don't tell the elders, buuuuut, i sorta kinda maybe never contributed money....ever..... i always thought - hey, i give a lot of my time and energy to the org, so that's how i contribute.

  i was also pretty stinkin poor for most of my life and didn't really have the money to give.. anyone else like me?.

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  OneEyedJoe

  I used to only contribute at conventions/assemblies (but I definitely contributed WAAAAY too much there) and maybe like once a year I'd drop a $20 in the box at the hall. The congregation I was in was always well off and constantly giving money to the branch so I didn't feel like they needed it. I'm ashamed to say I was sucked in by the perpetual deficit at the assemblies though.

  About 4-5 years ago, though, they simultaneously did a huge (unnecessary) reno of the assembly hall and rolled out the credit card machines. Either one of those individually would've been enough to make me stop contributing. Never gave a dime since. I figured if they're just blowing the money on useless crap, I might as well blow it on useless crap for me!
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  1st time in 30 years no one Baptized at our Assembly

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at our assembly in alabama, no one got baptized, even though we added 3 congregations to our side in the circuit.

  just looked at my wife and said wow.. yet ironically, the regular pioneer ranks have increased 45% in the last 5 years!.

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  OneEyedJoe

  They must be nearing the completion of the preaching work if they've contacted nearly all the right-hearted ones! Armageddon is closer now than ever before!
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  POLL: Will You Be Attending The Memorial & If You Are---Why?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just invited.

  i thanked my old elder friend and he left.

  (i'm not going).

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  OneEyedJoe

  Jesus wont be there, why should I?
  

  You'll both be invisibly present!
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  POLL: Will You Be Attending The Memorial & If You Are---Why?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just invited.

  i thanked my old elder friend and he left.

  (i'm not going).

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  OneEyedJoe

  I'll be there barring any (un)fortunate circumstances that prevent it. Stuck in for the missus. I'll probably stand in the back to allow for more sitting room for others and read an e-book.
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  Inactive ones are not JWs

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  years ago, the insinuation was often presented, that those who were inactive were actually not witnesses at all.

  the point being made was that ''...winesses is a verb, not a noun...''.

  i know there were published assertions to this end in the older books and magazines, with possibly even quotes from the likes of rutherford or knorr ,.

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  In such a case, they would make a record of the person's questionable conduct for the congregation file. When the individual again shows interest in returning to the congregation, they can clarify these matters

  You just gotta love that. Even from the perspective of a believing JW this has to seem a little insane - wait until they demonstrate repentance (by coming back to the congregation) and then punish them!

  I also love the assumption that they make that the person will eventually want to return!
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  rumor out that governing body is going to adjust the loveing disfellowshiping arangment df yes shunning no.

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  can anyone confirm they seem to be having disagreement writing dept and service dept some feel that df ok as long as you do not add wholesale across the board shunning regardless of the sin ..

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  They talk out of both sides of their mouth. They'll do an article about loyalty to the cult and go on and on about how your DF'd relatives are similar to those who have been killed by jehovah and you need to show your firm resolve not to associate with them, then the next day they'll do an article about helping weak ones and they'll tell you to show love to DF'd people.

  I would guess it's more about having something to point to to show outsiders that they don't shun, while still enforcing the shunning policy internally. They love to use loaded language and dog whistles to get their message across to the R/F while not setting off alarm bells when outsiders see it.
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  Inactive ones are not JWs

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  years ago, the insinuation was often presented, that those who were inactive were actually not witnesses at all.

  the point being made was that ''...winesses is a verb, not a noun...''.

  i know there were published assertions to this end in the older books and magazines, with possibly even quotes from the likes of rutherford or knorr ,.

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  OneEyedJoe

  gone for good...the WTS plays both sides. I found the quote above when an elder said I wasn't one of jws....and I'll try and look for one of those "not one of Jehovah's witnesses" is what I'm going to search the CD by.

  As to labeling jws inactive and treating them like df'd officially, I don't see that happening soon. Every jw has a member of their family that would qualify

  Yep, they play both sides - if they're trying to guilt people into not pressuring inactive ones back in then inactive folks are still part of the fold and need encouragement. If they're trying to guilt people into staying in and doing more, then inactive ones are as good as dead.

  As far as them changing the policy, I can see it happening for precisely the reason you gave. Forcing a little bit more of a commitment from everyone (since they're probably already slightly shunning their inactive relatives) is a great tool to get them to show increased loyalty. The more they sacrifice for the cult, the more loyal they'll be.