the problem isn't just that kids are getting raped by people in their congregation.
the problem's also that anytime someone has "serrious charges" brought against them the elders add notes to that jws publisher file.
and, if the elders don't take the matter to the police or, as is often the case, tell the victims families not to take it to the police either, this establishes a level of accountability.. take daniel fitzwater for example.
Got it. Fair enough. Regardless you are right. Molestation is an awful crime and should be reported as such. It's an awful thing that ruins peoples life's. I hope that the lawsuits against the Borg keep coming.
I guess that my original point is that as a parent I couldn't imagine not going to police if someone molested my kids. I would do all that I could to destroy the molesters life.
the problem isn't just that kids are getting raped by people in their congregation.
the problem's also that anytime someone has "serrious charges" brought against them the elders add notes to that jws publisher file.
and, if the elders don't take the matter to the police or, as is often the case, tell the victims families not to take it to the police either, this establishes a level of accountability.. take daniel fitzwater for example.
Just kidding. I wasn't trying to be sneaky. Just wasn't happy with what I wrote.
the problem isn't just that kids are getting raped by people in their congregation.
the problem's also that anytime someone has "serrious charges" brought against them the elders add notes to that jws publisher file.
and, if the elders don't take the matter to the police or, as is often the case, tell the victims families not to take it to the police either, this establishes a level of accountability.. take daniel fitzwater for example.
I definitly agree that the org has some culpability. Where I have questions is where is the line drawn between a parents responsibility and the OrGs.
when i started the fade....i recognize that i was upset, mainly because of the desillusionment.
but, over the course of the past several months, i am noticing an increasing anger toward all thing org.
it can only be described as indignation, not simply upset.
I wasn't angry until about a week ago. A 35 year old man died after refusing blood in our area. He was a father of a ten year old. He would of probably died eventually anyways, but we will never know. The effects of this organization can be drastic. I heard people praising his decision to "stand firm".
i have a question for any still going to meetings but no longer a believer.. is there any situation or announcement that would cause you to.
draw your line in the sand and walk away?.
if so, what would be your "last straw" moment?.
That's an interesting question and a good mind exercise. I'm not sure what could get me to quit. The fear of losing my family is intense. They really are all that I have in life.
sorry about the confused nature of the topic but my mom (who still goes to the kh meetings) said that there will be an "assembly" on sunday where there will be a prerecorded message or talk of some sort and that it will only be half a day and won't need to bring lunch.
anyone else have heard of these or gone to one?.
i know they are changing a lot of things.
The zone /branch meetings first showing is on Saturday at 3. I haven't heard any info about what is going to be on the program. It is 3 hours long. I am not expecting much.
hello guys & gals!.
we've just launched our brand new episode, s01e01 - irwin zalkin, which we recorded last night.. you can listen to it right here - http://www.jwpodcast.org/2014/11/03/s01e01-irwin-zalkin.
in this ground-breaking bumper show, we interview irwin zalkin, the lawyer who filed and won this new child abuse case against the watchtower organisation, which saw the victim, jose lopez awarded $13.5 million.. i think you'll agree with me (after listening to the interview) that irwin really knows his 'watchtower' stuff!.
Great episode! Fantastic. You have set the bar high for yourselves.
i heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the publishers of $17,000.. predictably, the elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to wt before the assembly "costs" (i.e.
"rent/extortion) were even met.
$11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations".
I would love to know what's going on. Something definitly changed recently regarding money. I don't remember it being this blatant in the past.
i heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the publishers of $17,000.. predictably, the elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to wt before the assembly "costs" (i.e.
"rent/extortion) were even met.
$11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations".
Just had our assembly. One day. 2500 attendance. Cost $24000. Somebody's getting greedy.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.
(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).
thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.
Smiddy
yesterday my "Dub". mom texted me to ask if I heard about this judgement. (She doesn't know that I dont believe anymore)
She googled it and learned about Candace conti and the other cases as well. Maybe this will start her out of the Borg. You never know. some witnesses are learning about this stuff.
