Posts by Ignoranceisbliss

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Estimating future growth or decline of Watchtower

by shepherdless in

i have seen a few posts here, in various guises, in relation to whether watchtower is in decline.

plenty of people respond, but it is all fairly anecdotal, or "gut feel".

some of it has been wishful thinking.. as of late 2015, watchtower's numbers suggest it is still growing marginally, but there are various anecdotes on this site of publishers typically being older, and younger ones disappearing.

Ignoranceisbliss

Do we couldn't all attendees ? Babies, toddlers, etc? Or only pubs?

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Question for those still attending the Kingdom Hall

by ToesUp in

jw
friends

this a question more out of curiosity, because we have not stepped foot in a kh in 3 years.. how is the attendance at the meetings/assemblies?

i know the answer will vary due to location.. are you (especially elders) receiving any notification or communication from bethel or co's that there is an upsurge of people that are simply disappearing or out right dis associating?.

thanks, in advance, for your feedback!

Ignoranceisbliss

Our local KH attendance has been consistent for a long time now. Not great but steady. Our circuit assembly is always packed. The issue is that most of the elders at our hall are old though. In 20 years most of them will be dead.

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What is the motivation behind the JW org?

by Half banana in

the gb has recently said that the brothers are generously contributing lots of money (at gunpoint it seems!

) so why with a billion dollar annual income do they demand more cash?

they have staunched the outward flow of money on paid preachers, zone overseers and bethel expenses and stalled the promised worldwide luxury buildings projects..

Ignoranceisbliss

It would be great to know the answer to this. I lean towards the idea that there is not anyone else behind it all.

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How to spot faders or "closeted" apostates in a congregation / meeting?

by nevaagain in

jw
friends

so i am awoken for several years now (never really bought the cool aid) but for family reasons i am still enduring everything.

but my wife knows ... .

anyway so yesterday we had this boring meeting and as i was sitting there trying to make time pass faster i looked around me and i thought who else feels the same as me and is completely bored?

Ignoranceisbliss

Same for me. I had a couple prospects at my hall but so far they have all fizzled out. I would think that if someone else was awake in my Congo it would be pretty easy to pick up on my feelings.

Iggy

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Jehovah's Witnesses' Brooklyn tax exemptions totaled $368 million

by OrphanCrow in

jehovah's witnesses' brooklyn tax exemptions totaled $368 million.

downtown brooklyn partnership ups its pressure on the tax-exempt organization to donate $50 million.

the jehovah’s witnesses have been exempted from paying at least $368 million in taxes on their brooklyn real estate holdings over the last 12 years, according to an analysis by the downtown brooklyn partnership and consulting firm bjh advisers.

Ignoranceisbliss

Of course the city is going to go for a cash grab. Can't blame em. The Borg offered 5 million and the city is sniffing to see if they can get more. Maybe they will get 7 mill or something. For the most part WT has been a good tenant in Brooklyn. In the near future all of the WT Brooklyn properties will be returned to the city tax doles. I'm surprised that the city council is picking now to complain about my cult.

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Has a 'Christian' ever murdered somebody?

by goddidit in

a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".

can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.

thanks.

Ignoranceisbliss

http://m.tctimes.com/deadly-night-remembered-a-decade-later/article_11632eae-6570-5689-9188-4b9743858324.html?mode=jqm

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Has a 'Christian' ever murdered somebody?

by goddidit in

a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".

can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.

thanks.

Ignoranceisbliss

In Holly Michigan around 1996 one JW murdered another. He was I think 18 at the time. He is still in prison and still a JW now. There was a write up about him in the paper prob about 5 years ago. I'm sure I could find the article if I had to. I can't remember his last name at the moment.

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Church of Christ Brainwashing Children Video

by cofty in

all churches are cults, it's just a matter of degree.. always submit to the church administrationfor they were placed by lord god to lead his nationif we obey then we will receive salvationsing along with me.... ....

Ignoranceisbliss

C of C is a very strict religion. No dancing. No booze. More struck than dubs in many respects. There are divisions among them though and some branches may be more strict than others.

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