Posts by phats

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Question.

by phats in

hi, is there a scripture saying it's okay to beat your wife with a stick no thicker than a mans thumb or is this a myth?

i remember something & have done some serching but need help.

phats.

phats

Hi, Is there a scripture saying it's okay to beat your wife with a stick no thicker than a mans thumb or is this a myth?

I remember something & have done some serching but need help.

Phats.

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maybe there will be a mass exodus from jws when thinking people read feb 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?.

phats

With my situation I've seen that some people need a community like a religion & this one dose tend to sute some people. I was trapped (one persons trapped can be another persons protected) in it from 0 to 13 & then from 20 to 42. I'm now out 10 years & I feel free from the control. My wife has been totally "in" for all her 50 years.

When I finally got out I wanted nothing more than for her to leave with me but the facts are "she wants in". She needs the religion, it dose something for her & I know that she knows it's far from perfect (I see it as a big bag of shite) but for her she would rather have that than what she feels would be nothing. For me, If she is happy with her choice then good. She supports me with my choice to not be under there control so who's to say it's wrong for them just because it's wrong for us. For me the thing that this should be about is the not being allowed to go with your heart without dire consequences. If this statement could show people that we all should have true freedom to believe or change your mind just like the org seem to be admitting here. just my take. Phat's.

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black dog comes to visit

by zeb in

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dear friends,.

once again my depression has got the better of me and i must bow out for a time.. "the angels sang glory to god in the highest and on earth peace unto men of goodwill'.

so if that means at this special time of the year then have a happy and safe christmas time all of you.. hugs.

phats

I can only say I can feel this feeling in my own way but I do feel it so much Zeb. Nothing lasts forever. i do know that. Phats.

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What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

by pale.emperor in

when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

phats

First thing I did was go out & by a big bag of weed. It took me a week of non stop smoking to get through it.

Still coughing after 10 years hah! & just stopped eating.

Phats.

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I don't like the person i am becoming...

by SpunkedTeen in

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i have not been active here lately just lurking mostly but i have no one to talk to and i need some help i guess.i started working out and became friends with my personal trainer(we went to school together).i started going out with him(lying to my mother about what i was doing,another thing to add to the list of lies,it's becoming too easy!

) and i notice i'm slowly becoming the worldy people that the jw's described.i've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone.i always thought the values that jw's taught were really good.if i cut ties with the only friend i have now , i would probably slip into a deep depression and i that is something that i want to avoid at all costs.i start university in january and my plan was to stick it out in the organisation until i got my degree and became fully independant but as of late a elder told me i am being considered to become a m.s and told me what i need to work on and since then the other elders have been nagging me to work on the same things.i'm trying to rid my self of my 'priveleges' in the cong but nothings working...if anyone has experienced a similar situation what advice would you give?

, oh and my mom was always super into the religion having been a pioneer and bethel worker for years but we went to the regional convention two weeks ago and now she is even more exasperating (for example a sister asked my why i was 19 years old and not a ms or serving at bethel yet, which is fine i've learnt how to deal with these questions but when i told my mother whom has always been content with me just being in the religion and never pushed me towards anything asked me if i was happy with what i was and if i would not be happier at bethel or regular pioneering.

phats

i've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone

Hah! That's just about what everyone I've ever know in the religion to be. Ether that or a total Busy body powermunger.

Phats.

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Walking a thin line - Resigning Elder

by Sanchy in

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warning of a long boring post ahead.

i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.

i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.

phats

Hi Sanchy,

Ive been out for 10 years now. Born in, married at 22 (wife 19) I'm now in my 50s & wife still going. We've had all the discussions over the years but she feels the way she dose & has no thoughts of leaving.

Okay. This is how it works for us. I love her with all my heart. I know she loves me so we have worked it out between the two of us. I believe I have the right to believe what I believe so it's only fair I give her the same privilege.

With this & over the last 10 years we have developed a relationship closer than I have ever know.

Your life & story are yours but I must say that one thing & one thing alone has made this possible for us & that is "Practising mutual Respect" As long as your relationship is worth it I would say keep respect at the top of your list & many good things will follow & you Sir will be free as well. I wish you every success, Phats out.

P.S. Do everything you can to NOT get D'Fed. Work it in such a way that you do as little damage as possibe in your congregation so you can still have some resemblance of life, with ALL your family including those that will stay in. Become a (Shinning, "happy" example) of someone leaving & there whole life & family NOT falling apart, Be mindful of your wife's & families happiness, this will make a lot to people looking on with similar thoughts going on to see that leaving dose not = catastrophe. P.

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New Video Series On Courtship May Open Some Eyes

by JW_Rogue in

so the wife was watching the latest installment of jw broadcasting and near the end there was a new segment on dating and courtship.

it starts at about the 39 minute mark:.

https://youtu.be/vuir-azsdm0?t=38m52s.

phats

Second guy looks like an ugly fucker & probably crap in bed so so she's really missed out there. Hah.

Phats out.

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Are they either leaving or going full on 'cult mode'? No quarter.

by punkofnice in

it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.

they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?

have others noticed this?.

phats

Yes. Yes it dose. Phats.

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Are they either leaving or going full on 'cult mode'? No quarter.

by punkofnice in

it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.

they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?

have others noticed this?.

phats

Thanks Punkofnice,

I've checked out JWServey & that has some good info for me. (Friday afternoon) is the one I've chosen.

Thank you for your help. I watched your videos & I must say I do feel your frustration at the wrongness of the Borg

I've struggled with containing my distain for the borg & I do all I physically & mentally can to not allow it in but sometimes when my wife comes home with some "great" news about what's going on at the meetings a lot of the old feelings come back. It's the same when we are visiting family where me & my wife come from. I am fully surrounded by top brass (congregation level only not higher) as most of my family are still SUPER in & it tears me up inside, even after 10 years. I'm still paranoid I'm going to get rumbled for doing nothing wrong & I'm just hoping it won't happen until my mother STAUNCH as staunch can be for the last 65 years is dead. Anyway. You keep your dignity well & do so much to help others. Thank you Brother Punk. Phats.

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Are they either leaving or going full on 'cult mode'? No quarter.

by punkofnice in

it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.

they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?

have others noticed this?.

phats

Thanks, Crazyguy. Do you know the session on Friday this talk is given?

Thanks Giordano, That's amazing.

Phats.