opusdei1972
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My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee
by opusdei1972 intoday i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.
she told them that she will confirm if she will go.
however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?
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opusdei1972
....The problem is that my sister is too polite.... -
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My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee
by opusdei1972 intoday i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.
she told them that she will confirm if she will go.
however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?
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opusdei1972
My sister doesn not attend the meetings just for two years. She now knows the truth about the "Truth". However, these elders have done six visits to her house so as to know why, and she has exposed to them the many flip-flops in issues like organ transplants, blood ban, false prophecies, etc. So they could not convince her. But now, after some months, they have decided to visit her to announce her that there is a judicial committee waiting her this friday. My sister has health problems, too much secular work, so she does not deserve that two stupids elders create more stress in her life. Sadly, I don't live in the same country, otherwise I would treat them as they deserve. -
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The Man Who Interviewed the Apostles
by TerryWalstrom inmeet papias.
if you had lived in the time of the living apostles of jesus would you have personally investigated stories about.
or, would you simply read whatever was written instead?.
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opusdei1972
....And we have to think the following. Paul said that Christ is the head of the Church. But if the Gospels contradict themselves, how could it be that Christ is the head of a Church which compiled contradictory accounts of him?. For instance, the fourth Gospel says that the last supper was the day before the passover, while the three others tell us that it was the day of the passover. But if Matthew and John were direct disciples of Jesus, the two must agree in the same date for the last supper. But they disagree, so this is another way to know that one of them was not an eye witness of Jesus, or the two simply were not. Thus, the Gospels are not reliable, accordingly, the writers of the Gospels were not guided by the same "spirit". ..........However, millions of persons still believe that the NT is the word of God, and people like the Witnesses live a life under the delusion of the "inerrancy of the Scriptures". -
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The Man Who Interviewed the Apostles
by TerryWalstrom inmeet papias.
if you had lived in the time of the living apostles of jesus would you have personally investigated stories about.
or, would you simply read whatever was written instead?.
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opusdei1972
I agree with you Terry. I have also done my own research on that subject. For instance, Papias said that Matthew wrote in Hebrew language a collection of sayings. This seemed to be the Gospel used by Nazarenes and Hebionites, who were christians that rejected the divinity of Jesus, regarding him only as the Messiah. Nevertheless, Jerome, an "orthodox" church father at the end of the fourth century wrote that most christians believed that that Gospel used by these sects was the original one written by Matthew. And if you read Jerome's and Eusebius' quotations from that Gospel you will notice that many statements differ from that of the greek version of Matthew's Gospel. So it means that many christians of the fourth century were not convinced of the authenticity of greek version of the Matthew's Gospel that we currently have.
But we have only to read the current version of Matthew's Gospel to know that Matthew could not write it. For instance, we read in Matthew the following:
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19)
Jesus could not command that, because if it were true, gentiles would have been baptized as early as Jesus died, and we know that it happened after some inner debates in the Church. And we read from the book of Acts that Peter was primarily reticent for baptizing Cornelius. So it shows that the author of Matthew 28:19 could not be a direct disciple of Jesus. This is also an example of the many words that Jesus did not say which appear in the Gospels.
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My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee
by opusdei1972 intoday i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.
she told them that she will confirm if she will go.
however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?
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My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee
by opusdei1972 intoday i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.
she told them that she will confirm if she will go.
however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?
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opusdei1972
....may be the use of past publications for showing the flip-flops is being considered a new heresy for the Watchtower elders. -
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My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee
by opusdei1972 intoday i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.
she told them that she will confirm if she will go.
however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?
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opusdei1972
Thank you for your comments,...
......I called to my sister again, and she told me that when the elders came to her house, they told her that there will be a judicial committee this friday because they have been visiting her many times to convince her that she must attend the meetings, but she always resists this advice and she show them past publications...., so the procedure now is to reunite with her in a judical committe. ..........
Accordingly, ...I told her that she should call to the elders to tell them that she is following the advice of his attorney, so they have to write a letter specifying the charges on which that judicial committee will be accomplished, due to her reputation is being questioned by them. So, without that letter she will not attend that private meeting.
I hope she can tell them that.
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My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee
by opusdei1972 intoday i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.
she told them that she will confirm if she will go.
however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?
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opusdei1972
Indeed she has talked with them in other meetings and she has pointed out that she does not support the Societies' policies.
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My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee
by opusdei1972 intoday i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.
she told them that she will confirm if she will go.
however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?
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opusdei1972
...but they told her that it will be a judicial committe with ad hoc named elders.... -
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My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee
by opusdei1972 intoday i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.
she told them that she will confirm if she will go.
however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?
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opusdei1972
She does not want to be disfellowshipped because she wants to continue to talk with other witnesses, but she no longer attends the meetings, because she does not believe anymore in Borg......And yes, may be if she mentions them that she will ask an attorney, they will be scared.