In general, the elders are cowards. .....In the case of my sister, who was being threatened by elders, the elders have stopped the judicial proceeding after being notified by my sister so as to meet them with her lawyer.
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A Judicial experience.
by John Aquila inwhen i was an elder in the 80s, a 16 year old baptized jw girl had confessed that at school during lunch a boy kissed her and touched her privates over her dress.
the circuit overseer was in town and we told him of the situation and he called the society and then told us that mother said we were not allowed to conduct the funeral in the kingdom hall or anywhere else with the threat of removing us and being dealt with judicially if we disobeyed.
the mother who is about 79 years old comes once a year to talk to my mom about the situation.
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2016 SPECIAL TALK---ARE YOU ON THE ROAD TO EVERLASTING LIFE?
by suavojr inare you on the road to everlasting life?.
note to the speaker: help bible students and interested ones to understand why and how to make further spiritual progress..
emphasize the many sources of help available, and warmly encourage them to act without delay.
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HOW TO BEGIN WALKING ON ‘THE ROAD TO LIFE’ .....Begin by building faith based on accurate Bible knowledge
There was no unique Bible in the first century. For instance, some Christians of the first century believed that the book of Enoch was Scripture, so Jude quoted it. Other christian churches in the second and the third century ignored that there was a second letter of Peter.
On the other hand, many unlearned Christians could not read the Bible in the Middle Ages, because they did not know how to read any manuscript. Accordingly, if the Bible were essential for life, why did God forget millions of those unlearned persons in the Medieval Period??
It seems that God is not concerned about the Bible.
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If there is a God, it must be evil
by opusdei1972 insuppose there is a god.
if he projected the human race, he knew that things like this would happen:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pah6sacn9le.
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Suppose there is a God. If he projected the human race, he knew that things like this would happen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAH6SACn9lE
However, this God does simply nothing. It is totally inactive in this world. So, why should we worship him?.
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How many here believed, down deep in your heart that the end would come in 1975?
by James Mixon ini was straddling the fence on that one, just in case they were right.
i don't recall.
telling anyone this is your last chance.
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Look at to my face. I was the author of that nonsene, doesn't it?. However, nothing happened to me. While many naive witnesses sold their belongings and avoided to go to college so as to preach my false prophecy on 1975, I was comfortable in my flat in Columbia Heights. Nothing happened to me after the fiasco, because I continued to be the Jehovah's seer in the organization, without any censure. Brother Russell and Brother Rutherford were very proud of me in heaven, because I followed their steps. They, like me, proclaimed and enjoyed their own false prophecies deceiving many people, but they continued to live without censure with the money of the brotherhood. Is it not wonderful?? -
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Geoffrey Jackson on "corporal punishment"
by opusdei1972 inhere is another jackson's misleading answer, from the transcript of august 14 :.
25 q. do you accept corporal punishment?
29 a. not not personally, no, and not as an organisation 30 we don't encourage it.
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Here is another Jackson's misleading answer, from the transcript of August 14 :
25 Q. Do you accept corporal punishment?
26 A. No.
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28 Q. You don't?
29 A. Not ‐ not personally, no, and not as an organisation ‐
30 we don't encourage it.
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32 Q. But do you prohibit it?
33 A. Our literature has pointed out that the true way to
34 discipline children is by educating them, not giving
35 corporal punishment. Your Honour, I can only tell you the
36 spirit behind our writings.
However, this is what I found in the Watchtower's article "Reliable Advice for Raising Children" (w06 11/1 pp. 4-7):
With regard to discipline, the Bible states: “The rod and reproof are what give wisdom.” (Proverbs 29:15) However, not all children need physical punishment. Proverbs 17:10 tells us: “A rebuke works deeper in one having understanding than striking a stupid one a hundred times.”
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GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.
but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.
so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.
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Q. Is that something that you foresee might happen ‐ in
other words, that an apology at least be considered?
A. The Governing Body has apologised on other matters, so
for me to say ‐ I can't speak collectively for everybody,
but we have apologised on things in the past, in other
areas, so it is perceivable.G. Jackson is a liar. No apology was given after changing their view on vaccination in 1952. Many witnesses faced trials for refusing vaccination. No apology was given after finishing the organ transplant ban. No apology was given after stopping the ban on clotting factors for the treatment of hemophilia. No apology was given after finishing the ban on the civil service for substituting the military service, and so on.
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May be G. Jackson is a puppet
by opusdei1972 inafter reading the answers of geoffrey jackson before the rc, answers like "it is not my field", we may infer that it is possible that this guy is just a puppet in the governing body.
for instance, raymond franz reported in his books that some of the members of the gb of his time were simply followers of what fred franz thought.
so, during a decision, if freddy said some thing, many of the members would vote following him.
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After reading the answers of Geoffrey Jackson before the RC, answers like "it is not my field", we may infer that it is possible that this guy is just a puppet in the Governing Body. For instance, Raymond Franz reported in his books that some of the members of the GB of his time were simply followers of what Fred Franz thought. So, during a decision, if Freddy said some thing, many of the members would vote following him. May be it is happening the same thing in the current GB.
For example, suppose that the GB had to approve the following stupid phrase that would appear in the Watchtower:
All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (The Watchtower, November 2013)
May be this sentence was proposed by Gerrit Losch, but Geoffrey does not like it because it is too sectarian, however, Thony Morris loved it, and approved it, and so Stephen Lett, and so on. Accordingly, Geoffrey just followed the gang.
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What is an apostate, according to Geoffrey Jackson (GB member)
by opusdei1972 inthis is what i found in the transcript related to the date august 14 2015 (royal comision of australia):.
18 q. and if they don't actively disassociate, then they 19 will be disfellowshipped as apostate?
20 a. no, an apostate is someone who actively goes against 21 what the bible teaches.. this is a half true.
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Mikeinkona
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Aloha Opusdei. Any chance you can email your comment to Mr. Angus Stewart? Please. It's an outright lie/deception.
Would you trust this guy Jackson with your eternal welfare?
I will try to send an email to him.
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What is an apostate, according to Geoffrey Jackson (GB member)
by opusdei1972 inthis is what i found in the transcript related to the date august 14 2015 (royal comision of australia):.
18 q. and if they don't actively disassociate, then they 19 will be disfellowshipped as apostate?
20 a. no, an apostate is someone who actively goes against 21 what the bible teaches.. this is a half true.
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Indeed, in many of his answers, Geoffrey Jackson has misled the RC
43 Q. So, for example, if they had become inactive or sought
44 to fade without formally disassociating, and the elders
45 came to visit and found them celebrating Christmas or
46 a birthday, they would be found to be in transgression of
47 the rules, would they not?1 A. That is not my understanding. But again, as I said,
2 it is not my field, that goes into policy with regard to
3 those type of things, but from my personal experience,
4 that's not the case.G. Jackson said that those policies are not of his "field". So, it seems that he is the watchman of Bethel, instead of a GB member.
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What is an apostate, according to Geoffrey Jackson (GB member)
by opusdei1972 inthis is what i found in the transcript related to the date august 14 2015 (royal comision of australia):.
18 q. and if they don't actively disassociate, then they 19 will be disfellowshipped as apostate?
20 a. no, an apostate is someone who actively goes against 21 what the bible teaches.. this is a half true.
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This is what I found in the transcript related to the date August 14 2015 (Royal Comision of Australia):
18 Q. And if they don't actively disassociate, then they
19 will be disfellowshipped as apostate?
20 A. No, an apostate is someone who actively goes against
21 what the Bible teaches.This is a half true. Of course, the Bible does not teach that we must obey what seven men in NY publish in The Watchtower. Nevertheless, the GB says:
“Persons who deliberately spread (stubbornly hold to and speak about) teachings contrary to Bible truth as taught by Jehovah's Witnesses are apostates.” Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock p.94
