i phoned my sister and she told me that the elders called her to visit her again the next saturday morning.
you can read the issues discussed in the past two visits:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical/281372/1/elders-answer-questions-about-the-changes-of-the-blood-ban#.u9e2dnlyops.
Whatever, she will say that she doesn't want to attend the meetings anymore, because she can't preach the doctrines of the governing body in good conscience. However, she will not write any resignation letter.
Surely, I will post the outcome of that meeting.
i phoned my sister and she told me that the elders called her to visit her again the next saturday morning.
you can read the issues discussed in the past two visits:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical/281372/1/elders-answer-questions-about-the-changes-of-the-blood-ban#.u9e2dnlyops.
I phoned my sister and she told me that the elders called her to visit her again the next saturday morning. You can read the issues discussed in the past two visits:
But now, I wonder why the elders want to visit her again. May be they want to refute the past Society's quotes she read to them. Perhaps, they want to told her that all her quotes are false. The quotes she read to them were extracted from this website:
http://ia600304.us.archive.org/27/items/WatchtowerLibrary/
The quotes from the Finished Mystery were taken from this webpage:
http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/1917_The_Finished_Mystery_1918_edition.pdf
The elders do not know English, so may be they can tell to my sister that those websites contain falsifications and were not published by the Society.
Well, I have to wait after the visit, but I don't understand why they are insisting. In the last two conversations my sister has shown her disgust against the blood ban and the flip flops of the Watchtower. So, what else?, do they want to know more of these falsehoods?.....or may be they want to disfellowship her this saturday?. ....My sister does not want to attend the meetings anymore.
what do you think of this story?
all i can do is quote from someone much smarter than me.
"men offten mistake strength of their feelings with strength of their argument" venting..
OneEyedJoe : ".....I finally got baptized. Why? I'd just gone through a break-up with my first love, and my father used some pretty well placed words of emotional manipulation to get me to take the plunge."
The Watchtower uses all the time emotional manipulation. This is a very dangerous weapon. The Watchtower uses it to shun, to baptize children, to get more money from their followers, to create fear of higher education, etc. This is why I think that we have to expose the dirty tactics of this cult in order to counteract the Watchtower propaganda.
As an ex-witness told me before, it is difficult to rescue the witnesses inside the cult, but you can decrease the number of outsiders interested in this cult by exposing its false teachings with books and in internet sites (this forum, and books as Crisis of Conscience, The Gentile Times Reconsidered and Apocalipse Delayed are good examples.)
what do you think of this story?
all i can do is quote from someone much smarter than me.
"men offten mistake strength of their feelings with strength of their argument" venting..
Gradually Huabi and I became convinced that there is a Creator and that he inspired the Bible. In 2005, we became Jehovah’s Witnesses, and now we share in teaching the Bible to others.
Did they read how many logical and moral contradictions contain the Bible?
Can they teach that in the fourth day the sun and the moon were created?
Did they read that it teaches the earth is flat??
Can they share in good conscience the Bible teachings through the glasses of the GB members?
what do you think of this story?
all i can do is quote from someone much smarter than me.
"men offten mistake strength of their feelings with strength of their argument" venting..
The Second Law of thernodynamics says that the entropy of a closed system increases in time. This means that it becomes more disordered as the time passes. But if the system interacts with other one, the second law must be applied for the system plus the other one. Accordingly, the entropy of that system can decrease. So, I don't believe that the second law can be rightly applied to the processes of natural selection....However I am theist, so I believe that between those benefical mutations there was a proposital force, and not a random step to give speciation. What is that "proposital force"? It would be a matter of theological and philosophical discussion.
what do you think of this story?
all i can do is quote from someone much smarter than me.
"men offten mistake strength of their feelings with strength of their argument" venting..
venting I can give you my own experience. I am Ph.D. in Satistical Physics (one of the fields of theoretical physics). Currently, I work as a professor and researcher in a University. I was baptized as a Jehovah's Witness one year after I started my undergraduate studies in the university. I have to say that I tried for many years to avoid arguments and readings against the Bible. I wanted to be a witness because I lost my father who was a witness, so I thought that I could see him in the new order by being a faithful witness. Of course, I always felt that I was a bad witness, because I put first my carreer to have a family and support them. So I always did the minimum in the field service, so rarely I was a pioneer.
For many years I did not want to use my critical skills to test the arguments of the Watchower Society as well as the Bible. When I wanted to use my brain ( in the same sense as I use it to solve problem of physics) so as to analyze the Society's claims, I had to admit and conclude for myself that I was living in a lie. Recently I was doing the same thing for the Bible. However, it does not mean that I am an atheist. But currently I don't believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God.
I think that those scientists who are supporting the Watchtower Society are in the same denial status as I was when I did not want to use my critical skills.
i realize some people feel they can't just leave the religion.
they have family, friends, position.. some elders mistakenly believe that they might be able to reform the cult from within.
the truth is, the religion is never really going to change.
That is the first thing I did when I realized that the governing body is a gang of liars. I stoped attending the meetings. I can't waste my time in hearing a stupid theology.
i mean what if a government decided to internally deport its jehovah's witnesses and give them their own independent country.
"here, since you say we are of satan, we're giving you a few square miles so lets see how much better a job your theocracy does, and this way you can't spread your religion.
" i'm surprised russia didn't try that.
There is a story in which the Watchtower dream of the new world comes true. In this new world, judicial committees can now order to kill persons who disobey the policies of the 144000 kings. These 144000 kings can also send angels to watch you all the time. I don't remember what a witness did, but he had to face a judicial committee in which the elders decided to sentence him to death. Interestingly, after dying he was suprised because his soul went to heaven, instead of being eternaly annihilated in the symbolic Geena. Then he told to Saint Peter: " I come from the earth, in the new world of Jehovah's Witnesses". Then Saint Peter said " Sorry guy, that was the Hell Fire, we made a mistake, now you are wellcome here in heaven".
we had an assembly part here 6 months ago where a sister was interviewed by the co because she left her job to do more wt work, she talked about some jobs that she had recently been offered with good pay but turned these down.
most listening to this is would be thinking that this sister is being blessed by jehovah for taking this stand, how much faith she has to do this and what can we do personally with our own jobs, made me almost feel guilty for having a job.
anyway come forward 6 months to now, this family has had to move to another region because the husband couldnt find enough work to support his family here.
We have to remember this for them:
*** Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 ***
If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold:'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.
we had an assembly part here 6 months ago where a sister was interviewed by the co because she left her job to do more wt work, she talked about some jobs that she had recently been offered with good pay but turned these down.
most listening to this is would be thinking that this sister is being blessed by jehovah for taking this stand, how much faith she has to do this and what can we do personally with our own jobs, made me almost feel guilty for having a job.
anyway come forward 6 months to now, this family has had to move to another region because the husband couldnt find enough work to support his family here.
"a sister was interviewed by the CO because she left her job to do more WT work,"
I was always against to this kind of cursed interviews. This is a dirty and frequent tactic of The Watchtower leaders intended to rob the time of the witnesses. I know many of them who have left their personal projects for spending more time in field service. Sadly they think they are doing this for God, but they ignore that they are serving a gang of liars.
