I don't see where the 70 years are suggested....
opusdei1972
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Question about Ezekiel's chronology
by opusdei1972 ini am writing an article in spanish about the failed prophecies of ezekiel .
however, i have found a problem when researching.
for instance, in chapter 26 ezekiel says that yahweh gave him the prophecy against tyre in the eleventh year.
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Question about Ezekiel's chronology
by opusdei1972 ini am writing an article in spanish about the failed prophecies of ezekiel .
however, i have found a problem when researching.
for instance, in chapter 26 ezekiel says that yahweh gave him the prophecy against tyre in the eleventh year.
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opusdei1972
Bart Belteshassur Thank you for your thoughts. Josephus said that after quoting Menander of Ephesus, because Josephus wanted to prove that the 70 years were exactly fulfilled. Here is what Josephus said:
http://www.livius.org/men-mh/menander/menander_of_ephesus.html
[Josephus quotes Menander to prove that the Babylonian Exile was as long as the Bible suggests, because the Tyrian chronology separates Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus with the same number of years.]
I will now add the records of the Phoenicians; for it will not be superfluous to give the reader demonstrations more than enough on this occasion. In them we have this enumeration of the times of their several kings:Nebuchadnezzar besieged Tyre for thirteen years in the days of Ithobaal [III], their king; after him reigned Baal [II], ten years; after him were judges appointed, who judged the people: Ecnibalus, the son of Baslacus, two months; Chelbes, the son of Abdeus, ten months; Abbar, the high priest, three months; Mitgonus and Gerastratus, the sons of Abdelemus, were judges six years; after whom Balatorus reigned one year; after his death they sent and fetched Merbalus from Babylon, who reigned four years; after his death they sent for his brother Hiram, who reigned twenty years. Under his reign Cyrus became king of Persia.
So that the whole interval is fifty-four years besides three months; for in the seventh year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar he began to besiege Tyre, and Cyrus the Persian took the kingdom in the fourteenth year of Hiram.
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Question about Ezekiel's chronology
by opusdei1972 ini am writing an article in spanish about the failed prophecies of ezekiel .
however, i have found a problem when researching.
for instance, in chapter 26 ezekiel says that yahweh gave him the prophecy against tyre in the eleventh year.
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opusdei1972
I am writing an article in Spanish about the failed prophecies of Ezekiel . However, I have found a problem when researching. For instance, In chapter 26 Ezekiel says that Yahweh gave him the prophecy against Tyre in the eleventh year. What is the starting point for this date?. If the eleventh year is eleven years after the carrying away of Jehoiachin (597 BCE), we are in 597-11 = 586 BCE, the year of the fall of Jerusalem or some time later. Ok, this makes sense. Nevertheless, Josephus said that "in the seventh year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar he began to besiege Tyre" (Against Apion 1.21). But the seventh year of Nebuchadnezzar must be 605 - 7 = 598 a.C. So I found a contradiction. Where I am wrong?
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Tamar was not a harlot, so Judah did not commit fornication
by opusdei1972 inthis is a portion of what the insight book says about the affair between judah and tamar:.
therefore, subsequent to judahs becoming a widower, tamar, on learning that her father-in-law was going to timnah, disguised herself as a prostitute and then seated herself at the entrance of enaim on the road judah would be traversing.
not recognizing his daughter-in-law and assuming her to be a prostitute, judah had relations with her.
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opusdei1972
All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
So, how could I be completely equipped for every good work by reading the account of the affair between Judah and Tamar?
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Tamar was not a harlot, so Judah did not commit fornication
by opusdei1972 inthis is a portion of what the insight book says about the affair between judah and tamar:.
therefore, subsequent to judahs becoming a widower, tamar, on learning that her father-in-law was going to timnah, disguised herself as a prostitute and then seated herself at the entrance of enaim on the road judah would be traversing.
not recognizing his daughter-in-law and assuming her to be a prostitute, judah had relations with her.
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opusdei1972
This is a portion of what the Insight book says about the affair between Judah and Tamar:
Therefore, subsequent to Judah’s becoming a widower, Tamar, on learning that her father-in-law was going to Timnah, disguised herself as a prostitute and then seated herself at the entrance of Enaim on the road Judah would be traversing. Not recognizing his daughter-in-law and assuming her to be a prostitute, Judah had relations with her. When it later came to light that Tamar was pregnant, Judah demanded that she be burned as a harlot. But upon the presentation of the evidence that he himself had made her pregnant, Judah exclaimed: “She is more righteous than I am, for the reason that I did not give her to Shelah my son.” Thus unwittingly Judah had taken the place of Shelah in fathering legal offspring. Some six months later Tamar gave birth to the twins Perez and Zerah. Judah had no further relations with her.—Ge 38:12-30. (Judah, it-2 pp. 123-128)
As we see, Judah wanted to burn Tamar as a harlot, but he was not concerned of himself when he had sex with Tamar as a harlot. Of course, Tamar was not a harlot, but Judah thought she was. This means that Judah (if existed) did it more than once. He thought it wasn't wrong to have sex with a prostitute, though a prostitute must be burned. Buuuuuut, Judah can't be disfellowshipped for that, no, no, no, he was a good man, because David,....,and Jesus would be his descendants. To have a better understanding of how Judah can be excused, we have to read the Watchtower:
Questions From Readers
What circumstances caused Judah to have sexual relations with a woman he thought was a harlot, as stated at Genesis 38:15, 16?
While Judah did have sexual relations with a woman he thought was a harlot, in reality she was not a harlot.......
Judah acted wrongly in that he did not give Tamar to his son Shelah as promised. He also had relations with a woman he thought was a temple prostitute. This was contrary to God’s purpose, which was for a man to have sexual relations only in the marriage arrangement. (Genesis 2:24) In reality, though, Judah did not have relations with a harlot. Rather, he unwittingly took the place of his son Shelah in performing brother-in-law marriage and thus fathered legal offspring. As for Tamar, her course was not an immoral one. Her twin sons were not considered to be the sons of fornication. (w04 1/15)
So, Judah just did something wrong against to God's purpose and then he wanted to burn Tamar, but don't worry, "In reality, Judah did not have relations with a harlot", in the same way that Rutherford just loved Berta and Bonnie and sent witnesses out "from door to door to face the enemy while he went from drink to drink".
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Question for Jehovah's Witnesses: Can you ask for the aid of the holy spirit?
by opusdei1972 inthere are interesting claims in the watctower, august 2014:.
2 today, jehovah guides his people by means of the bible, his holy spirit, and the congregation.
(acts 9:31; 15:28; 2 tim.
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opusdei1972
DesirousOfChange However, the great crowd was understood to be an earthly class since 1935, when the faithful and discreet slave thought that the holy spirit was taken away.
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Question for Jehovah's Witnesses: Can you ask for the aid of the holy spirit?
by opusdei1972 inthere are interesting claims in the watctower, august 2014:.
2 today, jehovah guides his people by means of the bible, his holy spirit, and the congregation.
(acts 9:31; 15:28; 2 tim.
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opusdei1972
millie210 I would like to read the answers of those witness Apologists who read the posts of this forum.
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Question for Jehovah's Witnesses: Can you ask for the aid of the holy spirit?
by opusdei1972 inthere are interesting claims in the watctower, august 2014:.
2 today, jehovah guides his people by means of the bible, his holy spirit, and the congregation.
(acts 9:31; 15:28; 2 tim.
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opusdei1972
I am not trying to make sense, they have to....
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Question for Jehovah's Witnesses: Can you ask for the aid of the holy spirit?
by opusdei1972 inthere are interesting claims in the watctower, august 2014:.
2 today, jehovah guides his people by means of the bible, his holy spirit, and the congregation.
(acts 9:31; 15:28; 2 tim.
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opusdei1972
There are interesting claims in the Watctower, August 2014:
2 Today, Jehovah guides his people by means of the Bible, his holy spirit, and the congregation. (Acts 9:31; 15:28; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17) The guidance that we receive from him is so clear that it is as if ‘our own ears hear a word behind us saying: “This is the way. Walk in it.”’ (Isa. 30:21) In effect, Jesus also conveys Jehovah’s voice to us as he directs the congregation through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) We need to take this guidance and direction seriously, for our everlasting life depends on our obedience.—Heb. 5:9. (w14 8/15, article : "Hear Jehovah’s Voice Wherever You Are", paragraph 2.)
Note that the governing body says that Jesus conveys Jehovah's voice through the faithful and discreet slave. When did Jesus appoint his faithful and discreet slave?. According to the recent new light, it was in 1919:
"In 1919, a time of spiritual revival, Jesus selected capable anointed brothers from among them to be the faithful and discreet slave and appointed them over his domestics."(w13 7/15, article: “Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?”, paragraph 12.)
Now, let's continue to reading paragraph 16:
16 Although Jehovah makes his counsel freely available, he does not force anyone to follow it. We need to ask for his holy spirit, and he will give it to us generously. (Read Luke 11:10-13.) It is essential, though, that we ‘pay attention to how we listen.’ (Luke 8:18) For example, it would be hypocritical to ask Jehovah for help to overcome an inclination toward immorality while continuing to look at pornography or watch immoral movies. We actually need to put ourselves in places or circumstances where Jehovah’s spirit is. We know that his spirit is at the congregation meetings. Many servants of Jehovah have avoided disaster by listening to Jehovah during our meetings. As a result, they have become aware of wrong desires developing in their heart and have corrected their ways.—Ps. 73:12-17; 143:10. (w14 8/15, article : "Hear Jehovah’s Voice Wherever You Are", paragraph 16.)
Interestingly, the faithful and discreet slave says that we need to ask for God's holy spirit in order to have Jehovah's counsel available. However, the faithful and discreet slave said that the holy spirit ceased to function since 1918:
“But when the Lord Jesus comes to his temple and gathers his approved ones into the temple, is there any further need for the office of the holy spirit as a helper and advocate? If not, then the advocacy of the holy spirit would there cease. Jesus, being in the temple and with his chosen ones, would act for them directly.” (Watchtower, September 1, 1930 p. 263)
“It would seem that there would be no necessity for the ‘servant’ to have an advocate such as the holy spirit, because the ‘servant’ to have an advocate is in direct communication with Jehovah and as Jehovah’s instrument, and Christ Jesus acts for the entire body.” (p. 263)
“‘The servant’ is anointed to do a specific work. ‘The servant’ is made up of Christ Jesus the Head, the resurrected saints, and the called and chosen ones on the earth who have been brought into the temple and who have entered into the joy of the Lord. Individually those of the remnant on earth must have their standing before God in the beloved One Christ Jesus, and the beloved One is their advocate. Being in the temple, however, there would seem to be no good reason why there should be an advocacy in their behalf by the holy spirit, since the Lord is now with them.” (p. 263)
“When the temple class is gathered the administration of the holy spirit as an advocate, it seems, would be at an end.” (p. 263)
“The holy spirit that had been the guide of God’s people, having performed its functions, was taken away, and the Lord Jesus himself, being present, represented his people and advocated in their behalf before Jehovah God, that is, in behalf of those who had fallen into distress because of their failure to properly use their lips in proclaiming the truth.” (Salvation, 1939 p. 217)
So, we have a big contradiction here. If Christ appointed his "faithful and discreet slave" in 1919, the current "faithful and discreet slave" is an apostate. Because this modern slave is telling us that Jehovah's spirit "is at the congregation meetings", but if it was taken away in 1918, how could it be?. -
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Blood, Vaccines and Organ Transplants
by Lee Elder inthe database still needs updating but that can bedone later.
if there are any important earlier quotesi have missed, please let me know.
http://ajwrb.org/watchtower/blood-vaccines-and-organ-transplants lee
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opusdei1972
“The Journal of the A. M. A. is the vilest sheet that passes the United States mail…. Nothing new and useful in therapeutics escapes its unqualified condemnation. Its attacks are generally ad hominem. Its editorial columns are largely devoted to character assassination…. Its editor [Morris Fishbein] is of the type of Jew that crucified Jesus Christ.”-
The Golden Age, September 26, 1934
I did not know this quote. It shows a clear antisemitism.
The Editor of the Golden Age, Clayton Woodworth, was more than excentric.