The members of GB know that the END is not coming soon. The only end they will see is when they will die as any mortal. But they want a more confortable material place to spend their last days as rich people.
opusdei1972
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New Bethel Conspiracy Theory
by kneehighmiah ini know someone who has been at bethel 2.5 years as a temporary worker.
he recently recieved a 3 year extension through 2017. i read his letter.
he is being extended as a 3-year temporary worker, even though he's already been there nearly 3 years already!
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Misleading explanation for the fulfillment of the Prophecy against Tyre
by opusdei1972 inas we know, nebuchadnezzar could not conquer the island of tyre, so he could not fulfill what was predicted in ezekiel chapter 26. many years later, ezekiel admitted that the prediction failed in chapter 29:.
17 and it came to pass in the twenty-seventh year, in the first month, on the first day of the month, that the word of the lord came to me, saying, 18 son of man, nebuchadnezzar king of babylon caused his army to labor strenuously against tyre; every head was made bald, and every shoulder rubbed raw; yet neither he nor his army received wages from tyre, for the labor which they expended on it.
19 therefore thus says the lord god: surely i will give the land of egypt to nebuchadnezzar king of babylon; he shall take away her wealth, carry off her spoil, and remove her pillage; and that will be the wages for his army.
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opusdei1972
As we know, Nebuchadnezzar could not conquer the island of Tyre, so he could not fulfill what was predicted in Ezekiel chapter 26. Many years later, Ezekiel admitted that the prediction failed in chapter 29:
17 And it came to pass in the twenty-seventh year, in the first month, on the first day of the month, that the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 18 “Son of man, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon caused his army to labor strenuously against Tyre; every head was made bald, and every shoulder rubbed raw; yet neither he nor his army received wages from Tyre, for the labor which they expended on it. 19 Therefore thus says the Lord God : ‘Surely I will give the land of Egypt to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon; he shall take away her wealth, carry off her spoil, and remove her pillage; and that will be the wages for his army. 20 I have given him the land of Egypt for his labor, because they worked for Me,’ says the Lord God .
Interestingly, the Jewish Encyclopedia presents a sincere explanation of this fiasco:
Ezekiel had positively prophesied the capture and destruction of Tyre by Nebuchadnezzar, but after thirteen years of fruitless labor the latter had to raise the siege and to arrange terms of peace with the city. Thereupon, in the above-mentioned passage, Ezekiel promises Egypt to Nebuchadnezzar as an indemnity. Here, then, is an oracle the non-fulfilment, of which the prophet himself is destined to see. Yet he does not venture to change or to expunge it. Incidentally it may be stated that the transmission of oracles of which the prophets themselves were doomed to see the non-fulfilment is the strongest proof that they regarded these as messages for which they were not personally responsible, and which, consequently, they did not venture to change; they regarded them as God's word, the responsibility for the non-fulfilment of which rested with God, not with themselves. In view of these facts it must be assumed that although Ezekiel completed his book in 572, he availed himself of earlier writings, which he allowed to remain practically unchanged. (Jewish Encyclopedia, Ezekiel, book of)
So, it seems that Ezekiel did not delete his past unfulfilled predictions, because he thought these came from God. Who deceived him?, Aliens?, no one knows. However, there are currently guys who want to show us deceptively that the Prophecy against Tyre was actualy fulfilled
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November 2014 WT - Points out the fact that Knorr supported false teachings.
by objectivetruth in- it's amazing to track the confusion and stupidity contained in wt articles.
- in only one watchtower you can find multiple contradictory statements, and representations of truth that are simply lies made up on the fly.
- as an example the nov,15 2014 wt has the following quotes : -.
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opusdei1972
Knorr supported Rutherford's false teachings because he was in the elite close to Rutherford. In 1925 Knorr may be knew that his loyalty would lead him to the Precidency after Rutherford's death. Knorr always thought as a businessman. Also, those who want to reach a high position in the organizaton have to kiss many asses.
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Watchtower Nov 2014 for public (Satan and fiction)
by opusdei1972 inthe passage that narrates the three temptations appears in the synoptics, but is ignored in the fourth gospel.
furthermore, in the fourth gospel jesus could not spend 40 days in the wilderness after being baptized as told in mark 1:12-13 (which is the source of matthew and luke).
so, if the testimony of the author of the fourth gospel were true (read john 21:24), the story of the wilderness never happened.
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Old Goat Although my comment may be shallow, I am not ignorant. I did not mean that Isaiah 45:7 means that YHWH created Satan (the person), but the bad, the evil. About the translation "calamity", the Hebrew word "rah" appeared in Isaiah 45:7 means mainly "evil". The Septuagint in Isaiah 45:7 chose the greek word "kaká", which means "evil", as in Acts 23:9: "We find no evil (ouden kakon) in this man.". The word "rah" also appears in Genesis 2:9 "...the tree of good and evil (rah)". It seems that modern Jews disagree with the rendering "calamity":
The word “disaster” inserted by the New International Version is misleading and purposely ambiguous so that the uninformed reader could conclude that this word refers to natural disasters, such as typhoons, earthquakes and hurricanes. This dubious translation was deliberately forged to conceal the prophet’s original message. As mentioned above, the King James Version correctly translates this verse, and renders the Hebrew word רָע (rah) as “evil.” (Rabbi Singer)
http://outreachjudaism.org/who-is-satan/
About Second Isaiah, the most clear argument is the name of Cyrus appearing in chapter 45. This dates that portion after 539 BCE.
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Watchtower Nov 2014 for public (Satan and fiction)
by opusdei1972 inthe passage that narrates the three temptations appears in the synoptics, but is ignored in the fourth gospel.
furthermore, in the fourth gospel jesus could not spend 40 days in the wilderness after being baptized as told in mark 1:12-13 (which is the source of matthew and luke).
so, if the testimony of the author of the fourth gospel were true (read john 21:24), the story of the wilderness never happened.
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opusdei1972
The passage that narrates the three temptations appears in the Synoptics, but is ignored in the fourth Gospel. Furthermore, in the fourth Gospel Jesus could not spend 40 days in the wilderness after being baptized as told in Mark 1:12-13 (which is the source of Matthew and Luke). So, if the testimony of the author of the fourth Gospel were true (read John 21:24), the story of the wilderness never happened. Most probably, it was invented by a christian comunity to teach about the battle between the evil and the good.
About Satan, Deutero Isaiah did not believe in him, because Isaiah said that YHWH was also the source of Evil:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7)
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141101/who-is-the-devil/
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Serious problems with Gospel of John, and his Revelation
by Pinku in1) john presents a jesus who is totally different from other gospels.
2) johns claim of jesus being partial to him undermines jesuss own teaching (mathew 5:44-48).
3) johns claim of first miracle (changing the water into wine) and the last (or most spectacular) miracle of resurrecting lazarus are not known to earlier gospel writers---something impossible for them to miss!.
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In fact, Revelation and the Gospel of John could hardly be written by the same author.
John 3:13 is an interesting verse, because it shows how "reliable" is the NT:
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man (John 3:13)
However, some manuscripts added: "who is in heaven".
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I know there is NO GOD
by jam inisis, plain and simple.
if there is a god there is no way he.
would allow this to occur (beheading of james foley).
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My hypothesis is that there is a God, but he does not interfere in human life and if you worship him, he is apathetical about it.
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The Watchtower and its absurd accusations against the Church Fathers
by opusdei1972 ini love to read the watchtower's article "the church fathersadvocates of bible truth?
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there we may read the most contadictory statements of the watchtower society, which shows how deceptive and ignorant is the jehovah's witnesses religion.. .
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1. The seven signs from John 1-15?
2. The Prayer in 16-18 (An addition)
3. The passion in 19,20 (based on the gospel of Pontius Pilate so early second century)
4. The last chapter likely very late in early third century
5. Lastly the 7:53-8:11 narritive... added after the Vulgate 400+CE
How do you know the above?.....I clearly see that the last chapter is a later addition, but I thought it was added after "the beloved disciple died" around the year 100. Who was that beloved disciple?
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The Watchtower and its absurd accusations against the Church Fathers
by opusdei1972 ini love to read the watchtower's article "the church fathersadvocates of bible truth?
" (w01 4/15 pp.
there we may read the most contadictory statements of the watchtower society, which shows how deceptive and ignorant is the jehovah's witnesses religion.. .
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opusdei1972
Another fact is that Jesus believed in the doctrine of hell (as it appears in the Gospels). I was just expelled from a forum of ex-witnesses, just for declaring that Jesus had to believe in hell as a man of his time. Of course, It does not mean that Hell must exist, but Jesus taught this doctrine. The Church Fathers did not take it from the Greek Philosophy, because many greek concepts were already assimilated by the Essenes and the Pharisees well before the first century.
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Jehovah told to Moses: "....kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man"
by opusdei1972 inin numbers 31 we read the following:.
jehovah then told moses:2 take vengeance for the israelites on the midianites.
afterward you will be gathered to your people.3 so moses spoke to the people, saying: equip men from among you for battle against midian and to execute jehovahs vengeance on midian.4 you should send 1,000 of each tribe of all the tribes of israel into the army............ 7 they waged war against midian, just as jehovah had commanded moses, and they killed every male.8 along with the others slain, they killed the kings of midian, namely, evi, rekem, zur, hur, and reba, the five kings of midian.
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opusdei1972
millie210 I admired Greg when I was a Watchtower apologist, and I was disappointed when he became an apostate by publishing his book "Three Disertations". Of course, it was so when I was a witness. But after leaving the Society I admitted that he was right by writing that book. Now, I still think that he is right in some issues, but now I see that he is enclosed in a fundamentalist position about the Bible.
So, as you may see, I have passed through different religious steps. First I was jealous witness, then I left the Society but continued to be a fundamentalist christian, and now I don't believe that the Bible is inspired by God. Why?, because I realized that it is a colection of books that create more questions than answers. If a written work produces more questions than answers it will only cause confusions and divisions. This is why early christianity could not be a united religion. This is why even the Jews who were the first owners of the Bible could not be united in one doctrine. Why??, Why the Bible is the source of divisions?....Now I think that I know the answer: It is because it was written and inspired by different human minds to fulfill their own agenda.
I recomend you the book The Bible Unearthed