Spinks is absolutely blind to the issue McClellan raises over their interpretation of the bible requiring using their own judgements. McClellan seems amused by that inability to see.
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Absolutely OC. Difference in his attitude is pretty shocking. -
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Falling in love with Monty Baker's counsel. She's brutal with her questioning. Asking about them sending known offenders to knock on people's doors. Spinks tries to dance, complains she's being 'too absolute'. -
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Listener - before early 90s, they didn't collect the extent of information they do now. So earlier decades will be underreported.
McClellan picking up on how they pick and choose to interpret scriptures with Spinks' understanding of New Testament rules on women. (1 Corinthians 14: 33 - 35) Spinks talks of not "interpreting over literally". McClellan picks him up on it. "So you don't follow that one?". Spinks waffles about context.
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Stewart setting out the figures for abuse within JWs and how this guy has been trying to present them to minimise things. Redacted report will go into exhibits, along with correspondence with WT's lawyers related to it.
289 reports of abuse in past 10 years. Most related to earlier period.
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This moron is confusing their judicial system with a real legal system. "We disfellowshipped [an abuser] for longer than he was in prison."
McClellan picking him up on it. JWs don't have the ability to deal with child abusers. Service desk is still digging in around the idea that they are more moral than society. He's giving the commission a good glimpse of how they really see things. He talks out of both sides of his mouth.
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Spinks ending with emphasising that they're fruitloops but unable to see what an easy way out the commission is offering them on some fundamental issues. The commission seems to be offering them a way just to report to the police, to accept different forms of evidence (which would only be available in proper legal process itself) and so they get their scriptural kicks and children are better protected because to get those extra witnesses elders would need to go to the police. But, no. "We go to prison because the gibbering idiots in Brooklyn decide something, until they decide otherwise".
@ScenicViewer - pretty clear too that the commission is aware that their standards are hardly unchanging.
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McClellan cutting through the bs again. Service desk guy tries to sidestep direct question, waffles that no-one has ever been forced to attend a JC, judge not having it. Wants the issue of whole judicial committee process addressing. -
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Jackson from GB hasn't been summonsed due to reasons why he is in Australia. Stewart openly inviting GB to turn up. GB has handwaved responsibility for everything..!
McClellan expressing concerns over JW internal processes and saying he doesn't have access to a witness to explain how church will stop increasing trauma of those abused.
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Think he meant those touting the homeopathy stuff by the Jdubs in healthcare. Can't fathom that one otherwise. It's not like many countries require professional qualifications usually preceded by higher education...