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  2016-2-17-Destroy Previous S-77 Forms!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these numbers and letters:--gbr659967--are the only identifying markson this boe..the "informant" who sent it said:.

  "this letter came through the congregation inbox and so hasn't got theusual identifying information.

  the name of the file is probably thebest way to identify it.

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  Thaks Saltheart. Is it just a direct transfer then? No changes to the forms themselves other than them now being in electronic format?
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

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  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  In terms of current law, that would generally be respected and not be an issue there Fisherman.

  In terms of 'do I personally think it's right', I wonder whether the Anglican idea, or some variation thereof, is worthy of wider consideration.

  (2014 draft of Guidelines for the Professional Conduct of the Clergy)

  If, in the context of such a confession, the penitent discloses that he or she has committed a serious crime, such as the abuse of children or vulnerable adults, the priest must require the penitent to report his or her conduct to the police or other statutory authority. If the penitent refuses to do so the priest should withhold absolution.
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  Watchtower go full on propaganda!

  by David Graham in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i see the watchtower are getting extremely desperate now.http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/25503-injustice-abounds-for-our-dear-russian-brothers/check out the professionally edited video, using professional equipment!

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  JWs in Russia are considered 'extremist', by the law being used against them, because they teach that their religion is better than others. By that standard, every religion is extremist. I look forward to the Russian state closing down the Orthodox church. Vsya vlast sovetam and all that. Lots of wrong done by JWs. Some illegal stuff done by JWs. Introducing laws to persecute them, other minority religions, the LGBT community etc etc. is not really something anyone with half an ounce of sense would actively support.
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  I don't agree with most of what fisherman said but I do agree with his statement "it is the parents responsibility to protect their children." So don't trust your children with es or ms, and by all means no jw indoctrination.

  To an extent, yes, there's a fair point. But abuse of children is often perpetrated by those who are in or close to the family circle. So it's something of a problem to say "parents should protect their children" if it's the, for example, father who is abusing his kids. Which is why child safeguarding in outside agencies, especially those where adults assume roles of responsibility, is so important.

  The WBTS' argument is that they don't have any responsibility whatsoever. This is not so. Religious leaders assume positions of authority within society, just as secular teachers do, just as law enforcement agents do, and anyone in such a role should have the sense to agree that such responsibility carries obligations too. Especially when it involves children where we (I've been a teacher) may be the person in a position of trust they turn to for help. It is not acceptable for a teacher to turn around and say, "well it's your dad, nothing to do with me." It is not acceptable for a policeman to turn around and say, "well it's your dad, nothing to do with me." It is not acceptable for a social worker to turn around and say, "well it's your dad, nothing to do with me." It is not acceptable for the Pope to turn around and say it to a child. It's not acceptable for the Archbishop of Canterbury to say it to a child. It's not acceptable for the idiots in Brooklyn to say to the children within their religion "what happens within a family is nothing to do with us".
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  Watchtower go full on propaganda!

  by David Graham in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i see the watchtower are getting extremely desperate now.http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/25503-injustice-abounds-for-our-dear-russian-brothers/check out the professionally edited video, using professional equipment!

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  They certainly are keen to highlight when their religious freedoms are in danger. Things like child abuse not so much.

  Agree with konceptual for reasons given in other threads. 'Extremist literature' in the terms currently being used in Russia is so generally applied at the moment that anything could be banned under it if the authorities wanted to, Orwell for example. JWs are being wrongfully treated in Russia at the moment. As are a large number of other 'minority' groups who are being targeted for not conforming sufficiently.
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  We may have interbred with Neanderthals earlier than previously thought.

  by cappytan in

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  it is now thought that we have been interbreeding with neanderthals as early as 100,000 years ago.. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35595661.

  craziest thing i just realized: some women still breed with neanderthals up to this day.

  rihanna and chris brown anyone?.

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  You're not from Kent are you Joe? That's where she's from ;) That's the reconstruction they did for the Natural History Museum. (Full picture on this blog from there, NSFW for some people as she's topless so just advance warning: http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/blogs/whats-new/2014/02/11/neanderthal-woman-in-pieces )

  The man looks like many I've sat opposite from at meetings. Chimp kicked through Burtons... ;) That's the Neanderthal Museum in Germany dressing him up in modern clothing to try and get people to question assumptions.
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  We may have interbred with Neanderthals earlier than previously thought.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is now thought that we have been interbreeding with neanderthals as early as 100,000 years ago.. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35595661.

  craziest thing i just realized: some women still breed with neanderthals up to this day.

  rihanna and chris brown anyone?.

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  I really hope we find some complete Denisovan skeletons, or at least skulls, so we can get some idea of what they looked like. Some of the more modern Neanderthal reconstructions have been very clever in gently subverting the 'ape man' or 'captain caveman' ideas which were once common. These guys survived around 80,000 years in an ice age. With only stone tools.

  
  
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  We may have interbred with Neanderthals earlier than previously thought.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is now thought that we have been interbreeding with neanderthals as early as 100,000 years ago.. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35595661.

  craziest thing i just realized: some women still breed with neanderthals up to this day.

  rihanna and chris brown anyone?.

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  John Hawks wrote a nice article on the implications a couple of weeks back:

  https://aeon.co/opinions/human-evolution-is-more-a-muddy-delta-than-a-branching-tree

  TL:DR - it's possible there were many species of hominins who could inter-breed over several million years. We're only just at the start of identifying them if so.
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Mephis

  albeit how the church handles sinners and confidential information they have on them is church business and confidential whether you like it or not.

  Confidential information has to be handled confidentially for it to be confidential. Otherwise it's not, well, confidential. The JW investigative/judicial process is not confidential by any objective standard. As at least two courts in the US have noted down the years when giving a judgement on the issue. I know JWs try to redefine confidentiality (eg your medical records inside aren't confidential to another JW) but it doesn't work like that for those outside JWland.

  Did WBTS ever appeal the ruling of Charissa et. al vs WBTS in 2005 on the judicial process not being covered by penitential privilege in California? Or did they settle?
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  2016-2-17-Destroy Previous S-77 Forms!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these numbers and letters:--gbr659967--are the only identifying markson this boe..the "informant" who sent it said:.

  "this letter came through the congregation inbox and so hasn't got theusual identifying information.

  the name of the file is probably thebest way to identify it.

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  Mephis

  S-77 is df-ing form isn't it? Wonder what they've changed. Less information required?