Posts by Mephis

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Possible reason for cancellation of book study in homes.

by Amelia Ashton in

this was posted on fb.. so guys, i'm gonna share something with you all that i think you should know.

i've only told two people about this (one being john cedars) for fear of getting this guy into trouble, but it's very telling and will reaffirm your "ttatt faith!

a couple of weeks ago, i had to have an "ability to protect" assessment by a gentleman from a company that also investigates child protection policies etc.

Mephis

The 2008 Charity Commission work was more on them having something resembling a child protection policy and to write down what they were meant to do clearly. (If that sounds familiar, this issue is the same the Aussie Royal Commission have hammered them for too). There was no threat to charitable status at the time. It was about having procedures in place, oh and also making sure that trustees of a charity (typically elders) who were aware of serious crimes informed relevant authorities. If that seems familiar... yeah.

Struggling with the story's link between Tuesday book study and the Mill Hill inquiry to be honest. Seems someone may be making much of this. Sorry. Hate to be sceptical. Can certainly believe aspects and parts of the story though. Just not that direct link between things from here in the UK. An overall realisation of liability and consequences does chime though.

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So do the baptised JW call themselves "Ordained Ministers"?

by nonjwspouse in

in resent my search for the possible construction ( which i see no evidence of in building permits, etc) of a new kh that my mil has been claiming for almost 3 years now, i ran across this local linkedin profile.. at the end it states this:.

volunteer experience & causes.

ordained minister.

Mephis

They claim it on their own FAQs. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/no-paid-clergy/

"Following the model of first-century Christianity, Jehovah’s Witnesses have no clergy-laity division. All baptized members are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work. "

But they're not when it comes to anything which might inconvenience them because they're all laity too. Everyone's in charge, no-one's in charge, the GB are in charge. Depends who's asking the question, and which answer benefits them most at the time.

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Email request-Prayer Is Restricted!

by Atlantis in

an answer to an email:.

atlantis, i have not installed the watchtower library cd as of yet, so could you copy and paste the article about prayer being restricted to unbaptized ones?

thanks in advance.

Mephis

Filing this alongside 'the ransom sacrifice wasn't for you' as one of those which totally slipped by me whilst inside.

Let me get this straight. God isn't guaranteed to listen if you're not baptised. Even if he is guaranteed to listen, he isn't going to answer unless you ask for something he wants to do anyway? So even if you're not guaranteed to be heard, and ask for something he wants to do, you're still heard? And if you ask for something he doesn't want to do, it doesn't matter if he hears you or not?

Yossarian whistled. "That's some catch", he said.

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Which bible character do you hate the most?

by Bonsai in

the more i think about it, the more i feel an extreme dislike for the apostle paul.

he was on par with hitler in his treatment of the jews before he "saw the light".

he replaced jesus teachings of love and mercy with a more legalistic, pharisaical concept of devotion to god.. any evil person can come to believe in god and worship him if the scales were literally and miraculously removed from his eyes.

Mephis

What others have said of old testament blood and thunder psychopath god. And then Paul, again as others have said. If there ever was a man who needed some bedroom fun, it's him.

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Jehovah's Witness spared jail over grooming girl

by Researchedandenlightened in

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/jehovah-s-witness-spared-jail-over-grooming-girl-1-7551106.

a jehovah's witness who groomed a girl has walked free from court.. .

richard ogilvie was given a suspended prison sentence after a judge ruled his conduct was 'bad, but not as bad as some cases we see before these courts'.. the victim's father said he 'understands and accepts' the sentence and hopes the sex offender treatment ogilvie receives will prevent another child and family suffering at his hands.. .

Mephis

falseprophet - as I said in the very first words of the post you quote from, "keep in mind the crime he was found guilty of".

If you have information which can protect others in the future, which would lead to a stronger sentence for a convicted sex offender, then it's on you to report that to the police.

If this is ongoing abuse, then you can contact the NSPCC too. 0808 800 5000 is their number. They can also advise you on the proper course of action even if it is just suspicion.

The safety of children and teens has to be the priority over whatever dispute you have with Simon, surely?

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Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?

by dropoffyourkeylee in

doesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?

how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?

Mephis

There isn't really much directly referencing the pyramids at Giza in any written sources until the Hellenistic period and Herodotus' account.

That's not really unusual for ancient buildings. The largest tomb known in Greece, and what appears to be a major cult site, is currently under excavation at Amphipolis. Nobody seems to have bothered mentioning it in any works about Macedonia or Thrace or Greece or even the city itself. People didn't write travel guides til much later. Your best bet for references to buildings is when someone has a trumpet to blow about what part they played in its construction or in its maintenance. 'I did that' sort of thing in an inscription somewhere around the building itself etc.

The one thing which the Israelites are meant to have built in Egypt which can be identified with some certainty is the city of Ramesses (Pi-Ramesses). Sadly it doesn't fit the biblical chronology, it was built a century and more after the Exodus is meant to have happened, nor was it a store city - it was actually a royal summer city and then the capital for a period. Someone was likely aware of the ruins to create the little backstory for them at a later date though.

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Forgiving Loans the Watchtower Way

by cofty in

bank - thank you for maintaining your loan repayments for the past 3 years.

to show our appreciation we are forgiving the balance of your loan.

borrower - yeah!.

Mephis

You'd get a deleted body of elders for not following theocratic direction. At best another court case where the organisation will argue they're just like the Catholic Church and local congregations do what they're told. They've mentioned recently that congregations should consider kingdom halls as belonging to 'Jehovah' and therefore to shut up when told what to do with it.

Would have to fully split from them to be free of their control.

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Jehovah's Witness spared jail over grooming girl

by Researchedandenlightened in

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/jehovah-s-witness-spared-jail-over-grooming-girl-1-7551106.

a jehovah's witness who groomed a girl has walked free from court.. .

richard ogilvie was given a suspended prison sentence after a judge ruled his conduct was 'bad, but not as bad as some cases we see before these courts'.. the victim's father said he 'understands and accepts' the sentence and hopes the sex offender treatment ogilvie receives will prevent another child and family suffering at his hands.. .

Mephis

Keep in mind the crime he was found guilty of, rather than the headline of 'walks free'. He sent texts over a period of a week, and has been found guilty of grooming. A suspended prison sentence, which is only suspended because he now has 2 years of mandated sex offender treatment and supervision. He's also now on the sex offender register. Whilst the judge has made a judgement call on whether to send to prison or to try a rehabilitation, this guy isn't getting off easy. He has to inform the police every time he leaves the country, every time he changes address, whether he's living with anyone under the age of 18, details of bank accounts etc. And if he doesn't, it's 5 years in prison just for not doing that.

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Damn Satan at it again tampering with evidence!

by notsurewheretogo in

jeepers...we all know that humans have only been on this planet for 6,000 years...stupid scientists getting confused again...must be that satan bloke who goes round fiddling with all the evidence that humans have been on this planet longer than 6,000 years!.

http://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-can-t-explain-who-made-these-huge-8-000-year-old-glyphs-in-kazakhstan?.

back in 2007, a series of huge, mysterious geoglyphs were discovered in the grasslands, or steppes, of kazakhstan.

Mephis

Most amazing if they can make the dating stand up. This is the area where one would expect to find Indo-European culture developing, if one of the main theories of human language/culture development is correct, so this is huge really for that.

Gobekli Tepe has already re-written the textbooks on ideas of when humans began to shift into settled communities, and the ability to order a labour force to create something of significant size, so there's plenty of room for other things to chip away at once established ideas.

Very exciting, but they need to establish the dating first. So far it's guesswork from everything I've seen, and evidence has to drive theory.

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Being interviewed by police tomorrow

by moley in

well tomorrow is a big day for me.

i'm finally going to be interviewed by the police about what happened to me as a kid.. im running the whole gamut of emotions at the moment.

sad, anxious, angry, guilt, fear and many more that cannot be quantified.. i feel physically sick, cannot sleep, have lost my appetite and i am desperately trying not to self harm.. i've got my sister to thank for getting this far.

Mephis

All the best for tomorrow moley. Sure you have the strength to do it, and that the police will show sensitivity and kindness for what they know is a very difficult thing to do.

Please look after yourself. If you're not getting any help with some of the thoughts and feelings you have, may be worth seeing if there's some available for you so you have a wee bit of support there for yourself right now. (GP, Community Mental Health Team, as you're in Britain the police may offer some support too via victim support, so it's there if you want and/or need).