humbled
You might be confusing mental illness with brainwashing.
there are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.
i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.
the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.
humbled
You might be confusing mental illness with brainwashing.
there are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.
i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.
the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.
'It does seem to me that entire communities do become mentally ill, however.' - please provide evidence supporting this statement.
I'm not sure how change will come about. I have read about acts of kindness from moderate sunnis in the Syria/Iraq conflict. Some kind people helped escaped yazidi slaves by hiding them away from ISIS, helping them reach their relatives in Kurdistan or Turkey.
Some activists in Ar-Raqqa are documenting human rights abuses but I'd imagine their life expectancy is about the same as an icecube in an oven.
there are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.
i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.
the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.
@jgnat
Which mental disorder were the men who stoned the Syrian woman to death (see my post no. 184) suffering from?
there are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.
i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.
the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.
I've just finished reading about a Syrian women, accused of adultary, who was stoned to death.
Apparently her own father helped tie her up and threw the last rock, killing her.
Were all the men involved in this atrocity mentally ill?
i have just finished reading one of the most powerful, thought-provoking books i have ever read.. if somebody really wanted to know the reality of life inside the watchtower they must talk to a rational ex-jw.
only people like us can see through the offical statememets and stereotypes and understand the thinking, pressures, hopes and fears of life in the cult.. ayaan hirsi ali shares her personal experience of growing up in a muslim community.
ayaan was born in somalia with it's culture of clan loyalty and honour.
'The fatwa was left impaled into the body of Theo van Gogh' - the religion of peace strikes again.
'She is very disappointed by western liberal feminists and accuses them of racism' - I think I get where she's coming from.
Western feminists seem to hold white, 1st-world sexist pigs to a much higher standard than they hold swarthy, 3rd-world sexist pigs. I'll have to finish watching the vid.
i have just finished reading one of the most powerful, thought-provoking books i have ever read.. if somebody really wanted to know the reality of life inside the watchtower they must talk to a rational ex-jw.
only people like us can see through the offical statememets and stereotypes and understand the thinking, pressures, hopes and fears of life in the cult.. ayaan hirsi ali shares her personal experience of growing up in a muslim community.
ayaan was born in somalia with it's culture of clan loyalty and honour.
Thanks for this recommendation, cofty. I haven't read any of Hirsi Ali's books but having heard her speak she comes across as very intelligent and articulate. I'll buy 'Infidel' when I have the time.
Can you confirm that she has been living with the threat of death (therefore she has a guard or hotline to the police) continuously since 2004? Have I got that right?
after a one year sucessful fade and no longer associated with any congreation, i was visiting my sister this week (who goes to the meeting to please her husband for now; i am slowly planting seeds though) and they decided to year this weeks midweek meeting via the telephone.
since i was a guest in her house, i sat with them in the living room to hear the meeting.
to my surprise (especially growing up as a gay jw with still alot of anger in my heart over how i was treated), the talks 2 and 3 where on, of course, homosexualiy.
@Truthexplorer - you seem to equate homosexuality with immorality. Supposing a gay couple remain chaste throughout their courtship and only have a sexual relationship within marriage.
How do you feel about this?
after a one year sucessful fade and no longer associated with any congreation, i was visiting my sister this week (who goes to the meeting to please her husband for now; i am slowly planting seeds though) and they decided to year this weeks midweek meeting via the telephone.
since i was a guest in her house, i sat with them in the living room to hear the meeting.
to my surprise (especially growing up as a gay jw with still alot of anger in my heart over how i was treated), the talks 2 and 3 where on, of course, homosexualiy.
Flipper: 'My JW mom who is now 87 [accepts gay people]'
Fantastic! It's taken me most of my adult life to accept gay people for who they are, and treat them as equals.
You're never too old to learn.
after a one year sucessful fade and no longer associated with any congreation, i was visiting my sister this week (who goes to the meeting to please her husband for now; i am slowly planting seeds though) and they decided to year this weeks midweek meeting via the telephone.
since i was a guest in her house, i sat with them in the living room to hear the meeting.
to my surprise (especially growing up as a gay jw with still alot of anger in my heart over how i was treated), the talks 2 and 3 where on, of course, homosexualiy.
'society in general will pay the price for allowing same-sex unions' - ridiculous comment!
Same-sex couples are a tiny minority (c.5%) of society and do not wish to convert anybody!
Also, it never fails to astonish me how obsessed the Society is over certain sexual acts.
Anal sex, for example, is most certainly not exclusive to gay men - it no doubt happens among heterosexual couples.
i think my earlier post " what is a fact" has run it's course.
in this thread i would like to present the same question " what is a fact" from a different viewpoint.. many j.w children have loving parents ( that is a fact) but parents who insanley demanded unquestioning obidience to their deranged standards.. so " what is a fact" to innocent children is that a god who they have never seen nor heard, will destroy them if they dont live to the g.bs deranged standards.. so basically these children have been taught the wrong meaning of words:-.
love is conditional.
I agree 100% with your OP, new hope and happiness.
LOVE IS UNCONDITIONAL.