seriously, endured a torturous conversation with an active jdub yesterday.
and he was frothing at the mouth about how "muslims are doing the right thing with .
executing the....." he then went on to list everyone from drugdealers to thieves to fornicators.. he said "countries where this sort of thing is happening have got it right!
Hi cultBgone. I gotta admit the congregation I was in was largely made up of decent people.
However, there were some with 'scary cult personas'.
My mother could never quit smoking. I had an elder say to me: 'maybe you should give up witnessing to your mum, she's still smoking, she hasn't fully accepted the message, she might not make it'. Translation into plain English: our loving God Jehovah will very soon kill your mother because she smokes.
I was a true believer, 16 years old at the time.
this is what somebody has been telling me, trying to convince me aside from anything one can say or cause reason for doubt, as the evidence that they are the true religion and true people of god.
they are convinced because while 'all other' christian and other religions support war, troops, etc, jw's don't and they are the only one's who carry god's name and preach.
nothing else matters.
Good point, designs, I hadn't thought about the 'many levels of Pacifism' either.
i think i'm going to get flamed for this, but it needs to be said.. this kid is full of bravado, and if his head is as stuffed full of muslim ideology, as my head was once stuffed full of christian ideology, he probably believes that allah (the other face of yahweh) wants him to do it, and that if he dies in the effort, he will be rewarded in paradise.. before i post his story, please consider that the ideology of martyrdom, has both a christian face and a muslim face.
ignatius, the second bishop of antioch, wanted to die for jesus, just as the young man in the following story, likely imagines that he is willing to die for allah.. ok, that's out of the way, so here's the story:.
bankstown boy threatens prime minister tony abbott in islamic state recruitment videodate: october 21, 2014 david wroe and natalie o'brien.
@fulltimestudent
Your last post makes a good points but what's the solution?
If the West is peaceful, Islamic extremists will try to slaughter infidels (including the West). If the West uses violence, Islamic extremists will try to slaughter infidels (including the West).
seriously, endured a torturous conversation with an active jdub yesterday.
and he was frothing at the mouth about how "muslims are doing the right thing with .
executing the....." he then went on to list everyone from drugdealers to thieves to fornicators.. he said "countries where this sort of thing is happening have got it right!
@sparrowdown
A prime example of JWs showing their true colours. I'm not religious, but even I can see that this is a far cry from Jesus' message of love, compassion and forgiveness.
If people like this person don't like the West, they're free to leave.
I'll even help pay for a one-way ticket.
this is what somebody has been telling me, trying to convince me aside from anything one can say or cause reason for doubt, as the evidence that they are the true religion and true people of god.
they are convinced because while 'all other' christian and other religions support war, troops, etc, jw's don't and they are the only one's who carry god's name and preach.
nothing else matters.
'Pacifism is not a virtue. It is the moral equivalent of seeing a woman being beaten and walking by on the other side' - fantastic comment!
I'd never thought of it like that before.
this is what somebody has been telling me, trying to convince me aside from anything one can say or cause reason for doubt, as the evidence that they are the true religion and true people of god.
they are convinced because while 'all other' christian and other religions support war, troops, etc, jw's don't and they are the only one's who carry god's name and preach.
nothing else matters.
@EndofMysteries - Jwfacts has a good section on religions with similar beliefs to WTS.
'Global preaching work' my arse! I wonder how the ministry is going in North Korea, Saudi Arabia or China?
one soldier is shot at war memorial.
multiple shooters suspected.
national post has live updates:.
'It is NEVER about the rights of the victims.' - I fear you've hit the nail on the head, AlphaMan, and neatly summed up the issue.
i think i'm going to get flamed for this, but it needs to be said.. this kid is full of bravado, and if his head is as stuffed full of muslim ideology, as my head was once stuffed full of christian ideology, he probably believes that allah (the other face of yahweh) wants him to do it, and that if he dies in the effort, he will be rewarded in paradise.. before i post his story, please consider that the ideology of martyrdom, has both a christian face and a muslim face.
ignatius, the second bishop of antioch, wanted to die for jesus, just as the young man in the following story, likely imagines that he is willing to die for allah.. ok, that's out of the way, so here's the story:.
bankstown boy threatens prime minister tony abbott in islamic state recruitment videodate: october 21, 2014 david wroe and natalie o'brien.
Paint a bright red bullseye on his face and send him to Syria ...
one soldier is shot at war memorial.
multiple shooters suspected.
national post has live updates:.
I hope the family of Nathan Cirillo get support and help at this time. I also hope those injured maked a full recovery.
I'm glad one gunman has been killed. If there are any more on the run, I hope they get put down also.
there are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.
i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.
the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.
Yes I think I can. When were all in 'the truth' and 'true believers' we were brainwashed. This may have lead to mental illness in some cases but not in others. Brainwashing and mental illness are similar, may overlap, and one may lead to the other. I don't think they're one and the same.
To further explain: consider someone attending a hypnotist show. The person is picked from the crowd and the hypnotist has him believing he's a dog.
The person is brainwashed. But is he mentally ill?
