according to radio news earlier today he was raised as a jw but was told to leave home when he was disfellowshipped and turned to the mosque for support.. a teenager who was on his way to behead a british soldier with a 12in knife when he was arrested, has been found guilty of preparing a terrorist act.. brusthom ziamani, 19, was also carrying a hammer and an "islamic flag" when he was arrested in london in august 2014......
Just been reading about this. It was bad for his parents to disown him for leaving the WTS. Of course, that had nothing to do with him being found with a 12 inch knife, a hammer and a black flag of jihad.
He could have chosen to live within the law and worship at his local mosque. Instead, he chose to get involved with terrorism. I hope they lock him up and throw away the key.
end of the worldhow and whenexplained scientifically!.
problem with humans is that they dont learn from mistakes.
their greed has already spoiled air and water, and brought global warming which would ultimately sink most of the inhabited earth!.
The CIA and controlling the climate. From The Guardian. Nuff said ...
from the online journal yad l'achim .
http://yadlachim.org/?categoryid=203&articleid=577.
in the above article jehovah's witnesses and the jews, a great many controversial issues are placed squarely in the spotlight of history.
Good post, Simon.
Their boasts are more cultish crap.
From what I've read about him, Rutherford was an egotistical bully and a loudmouth.
Apparently, every non-witness belonged to 'the Devil's organisation'.
I feel sorry for ordinary JWs that bore the brunt of persecution, while Rutherford drank alcohol in Beth Sarim or was chauffeured around in one of his Cadillacs.
some jw's on various postingshave asked me was there anything about the jw's i still agree with.
of course there are some things i agree with and some i partially do.
1. political involvement - while i do not agree with totally avoiding anything associated with politics, i agree that many of todays churches are way too involved in trying to sway their constituents beliefs.
Is there anything about the JW's you still like? - the 'clean lifestyle' aspect is vaguely appealing to me sometimes. This can be found among atheists, agnostics, members of other churches/religions, though.
Including the congregation in the discussion - I never saw much of this. Some things were put to a vote - congregation members never voted against, in my experience.
I agree with the OP - religions should be apolitical.
That's about it.
this topic has been on my mind lately.
i have been looking around at jws and wondering how many truly believe the end is as near as they are told.
from my personal experience, i know that my parents fully believe the end is imminent and may come any time now.
Based on my own experience and on what I've read here, it seems to me that there are two groups of JWs: those that genuinely believe the end is near and swallow everything the GB spews forth; and those that largely believe they've got 'the truth' (or the closest thing to it) but don't really know when 'the end' will come.
I also think that group 1 are a minority but are 'zealous' so fill many positions of oversight.
The blind leading the blind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqzhnx7xma.
the bible does say that the "day of jehovah" (armageddon) would be associated with the sun becoming dark followed by the moon turning to blood.
but the moon turning to blood is specific to a total lunar eclipse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqzhnx7xma.
the bible does say that the "day of jehovah" (armageddon) would be associated with the sun becoming dark followed by the moon turning to blood.
but the moon turning to blood is specific to a total lunar eclipse.
Charlie/larsinger - being transgendered and in the WTS must've been a total nightmare. Have you thought about seeing a counsellor?
All the best
Take care
LUHE
the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.
I agree with the OP that the WTS cannot hide its history because of the internet.
The internet seems to have played a major role in helping people see 'the truth' for what it is.
But will that lead to 'a mass awakening'? I find that hard to believe.
one of many things that led me to agnosticism after leaving the jw's was the cognitive dissonance i encountered with those in the mainstream churches, especially the really conservative ones.
these types would scream out in protest (rightly so) on all of the current atrocities going on in the world regarding islam and its radical extremists, but then justify the savage murders and slaughter perpetuated by israel in the old testament.. often i would take these passages and replace the names and places of these scriptures with current ones.
for example 1 samuel 15:3 reads "now go, attack the amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them.
Good OP, Donny.
I've also become agnostic since leaving the WTS.
For me, as I was leaving, it was the case that the brothers copied the WTS and regularly criticised 'Christendom' but stayed silent on Islamic terrorism. I mean, how can celebrating xmas or easter be worse that suicide bombing or decapitation?! When I put this to a young brother, this was his reply: 'but they're not real muslims. True muslims believe the same as us'
I could have followed this up with ' so, will muslims worship Allah in mosques in the new system?' or 'will Jehovah destroy the religion of Islam at Armageddon?' but there's only so much bullsh1t I can take.
it has been the history of mankind that they proceed from the crude to the subtle in all spheres of life: they seek the subtle amidst the crude, and in the subtle, they seek the subtlest.
when hunger is extinguished, humans looked for art.
ancient humans appreciated the harmony of music; they also liked to dance in joy.
When hunger is extinguished, humans looked for art - we can live without art (and religion) but we can't live without meeting our nutritional requirements.
Therefore eating and drinking must be more important than either art or religion.
