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  Proportional Representation vs Electoral Collages

  by Simon in

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  the craziness of first-past-the-post elections .... we'll no doubt have to now live through the scotts demanding another referendum, because we may take their lands, but we will never take their freedom!

  and so they want to be free of the uk, where they have a disproportionate influence in parliament, and be a little dot that's part of the eu.

  yup, freedom.. but anyway, as it stands right now they have 48 seats after getting 1.2m votes.

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  Proportional Representation vs Electoral Collages

  by Simon in

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  the craziness of first-past-the-post elections .... we'll no doubt have to now live through the scotts demanding another referendum, because we may take their lands, but we will never take their freedom!

  and so they want to be free of the uk, where they have a disproportionate influence in parliament, and be a little dot that's part of the eu.

  yup, freedom.. but anyway, as it stands right now they have 48 seats after getting 1.2m votes.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  ADDENDUM:

  majority of the UK people voted for parties supporting either Remain or second referendum

  Q: why are you lumping Remain and Second Referendum together?!

  A: intellectual dishonesty.

  Go and add up the number of votes for: parties with Brexit on their manifesto; parties with Second Referendum on their manifesto; and parties with Remain on their manifesto. Which has the most votes, Brexit, 2nd Referendum or Remain?

  If you want to make it about Brexit vs Remain, you must not include votes for Labour as votes for Remain.

  F**k me, the cheek of some people! XD
  
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  Will Brexiteers be happy with Phase 2 of Brexit?

  by The Fall Guy in

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  "brussels plans to insist that in order to get that "quick and dirty" deal, the prime minister would have to sign up to eu conditions: alignment with eu environmental, state aid and tax regulations for example.

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50777995.

  would such a deal represent what they thought they were voting for in the referendum?.

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  stillMS - yes, the EU is a political entity that we never voted to join. We voted to join a trading bloc called the EEC in 1975. Then that was replaced with the EU in the mid 90s. We, the voters, weren't consulted.

  Also, in the current situation, EU law holds sway over UK law - not good. Leaving the UK would mean that the EU courts will not interfere in how the UK governs itself.

  Are you from the US, stillMS?

  Imagine there's a trading bloc between the US, Canada, Mexico, and other countries of the Americas.

  You guys have a referendum to join this trading bloc - sounds good, doesn't it.

  But twenty years after you voted to join, the trading bloc disappears and is replaced with a political union. Let's call it the AU - the American Union.

  Now, AU courts have the power to overrule US judges. Not nice, is it? You would end up with Costa Rican judges telling Yanks how to live their lives. I'm pretty certain that if this kinda scenario happened, Yanks would go nuts.

  And there's more: two EU projects that the UK wisely opted out of were the single currency (Euro) and the Schengen Zone.

  The Euro has been a disaster - just look at the state of Greece. Tony Blair wanted us to join the Euro but was talked out of it by Gordon Brown (thank God). Pro-Euro supporters like Blair and Nick Cable have never acknowledged that it has been a disaster and that they were wrong to try and push it onto us.

  The Schengen Zone (an area of EU countries where EU citizens can move freely without presenting their passports) has been exploited by illegal immigrants, terrorists and other undesirables.

  Calais in France is separated from the UK by the English Channel. It has had serious problems over the past few years with plenty of migrants, who are looking to get to the UK. Some claim to be refugees. How the hell can you have refugees leaving France? These people aren't being persecuted by France, right?

  Some migrants literally go at lorry drivers with knives or other weapons, to get illegal entry to the UK.
  

  They just think the UK is a soft touch and would like to live here. Hopefully, Boris Johnson will get us the hell out and sort out these and related issues.

  A few years ago, Angela Merkel just decided to let in millions of migrants from Syria. They could be ordinary families, refugees, terrorists, anyone. She just let them in to Germany and then started moaning that other countries weren't taking their share!

  The Syrian immigrants - legal and illegal - were presented with shiny new German/EU passports. That now meant they could move to any EU country they wanted. The UK wants to regain control of its own borders.

  Leaving the EU will help us in this regard. There will be migration from non-EU countries to sort out, too, but the Conservatives seem to be serious in tackling these issues.
  
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  Syrian conflict

  by Holden Caufield in

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  i feel that assad even though he is bad is a better alternative then islamic extremist taking power.

  what do you think?.

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  Bashar al-Assad is a tyrant who kidnaps, abuses and massacres his own people so it's understandable that many Syrians want him gone.

  They went about it the wrong way, or it started out well and then turned bad as the Islamist Head-choppers became prominent.

  And what about the Kurds? They've fought bravely to gain some kind of independence. It would be an absolute travesty if they were to lose that - either to al-Assad or to the Turkey-backed Islamist groups. Either way it would be terrible for them.
  
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  FlyingHighNow

  by Ex-Witless in

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  hello forum.

  my aunt, flyinghighnow, has passed away.

  i don't know if you remember her, but she was a long time member.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  That's very sad to hear.

  Please accept my condolences.

  RIP Flying High Now.
  
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  Proportional Representation vs Electoral Collages

  by Simon in

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  the craziness of first-past-the-post elections .... we'll no doubt have to now live through the scotts demanding another referendum, because we may take their lands, but we will never take their freedom!

  and so they want to be free of the uk, where they have a disproportionate influence in parliament, and be a little dot that's part of the eu.

  yup, freedom.. but anyway, as it stands right now they have 48 seats after getting 1.2m votes.

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  @Slim: the Scottish people don't get to decide when to have IndyRef 2.

  Boris Johnson gets to decide that - he's Prime Minister of the UK and has a large majority.
  
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  Proportional Representation vs Electoral Collages

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the craziness of first-past-the-post elections .... we'll no doubt have to now live through the scotts demanding another referendum, because we may take their lands, but we will never take their freedom!

  and so they want to be free of the uk, where they have a disproportionate influence in parliament, and be a little dot that's part of the eu.

  yup, freedom.. but anyway, as it stands right now they have 48 seats after getting 1.2m votes.

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  The SNP pretending that they are already independent of the UK that Scotland voted to remain in back in 2014 is where the lack of respect for democracy lies.

  ^^^ This.
  
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  Proportional Representation vs Electoral Collages

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the craziness of first-past-the-post elections .... we'll no doubt have to now live through the scotts demanding another referendum, because we may take their lands, but we will never take their freedom!

  and so they want to be free of the uk, where they have a disproportionate influence in parliament, and be a little dot that's part of the eu.

  yup, freedom.. but anyway, as it stands right now they have 48 seats after getting 1.2m votes.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  majority of the UK people voted for parties supporting either Remain or second referendum - but that's only because the majority of our MPs voted Remain and want us to stay.

  So, more political parties ran on manifestos that wanted to stop/overturn the 2016 referendum result.

  It was only two parties that stuck up for the will of the UK electorate - the Conservatives and the Brexit party.

  All the pro-Remain MPs got slaughtered - it was a total bloodbath and a sharp reminder to our MPs not to ignore the will of the people.

  Dominic Grieve - gone.

  Jo Swinson - gone.

  Chuka Umunna - gone.

  Anna Soubry - gone.

  etc., etc.
  

  We've now had two votes for Brexit - one referendum and one general election. The message sent to our 'honourable' Members of Parliament is crystal-clear: get brexit done. I hope they listen to the people they claim to serve.
  
  
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  Proportional Representation vs Electoral Collages

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the craziness of first-past-the-post elections .... we'll no doubt have to now live through the scotts demanding another referendum, because we may take their lands, but we will never take their freedom!

  and so they want to be free of the uk, where they have a disproportionate influence in parliament, and be a little dot that's part of the eu.

  yup, freedom.. but anyway, as it stands right now they have 48 seats after getting 1.2m votes.

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  It’s for the SNP to decide when to have another vote - no, it's not.

  Boris just got elected to be PM of the UK on a manifesto promising to 'Get Brexit Done'.

  So, first, we get brexit done (i.e. the whole of the UK, including Scotland, leaving the EU) - however long this may take - and only afterwards can Scotland have IndyRef Mk 2.

  There's also one important caveat: the Scottish electorate will be asked the question whether they want to remain in or leave the UK. Whichever way the vote goes, it will be understood by both Leavers and Remainers that the political union known as the UK won't be broken up in the event that Leave wins - i.e. the UK will continue as a political union with or without Scotland.

  Boris Johnson just got elected UK Prime Minister with a huge majority and therefore with a clear political mandate. This must be accepted by all before we can proceed.
  
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  Greta Thunberg...what’s your view of her?

  by minimus in

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  she certainly is passionate about climate change.

  🤔.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  she has a passion for a cause - but what's her cause? We haven't worked that out yet.

  If I were being cynical, I'd note that she lectures capitalist countries but not communist/socialist ones like China and conclude that her agenda is to overthrow capitalism.

  Show me where I'd be wrong; change my mind ...