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  Did you ever meet someone born in the 1800’s?

  by Fisherman in

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  i met freddie franz who was born in the 1880’s and many others from the 1880’s.

  but as a very small child i remember someone very old aged 106 and that person was born around 1856 which means that he was around people from the 1700’s..

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Yes, I did.

  I was born in 1979. I knew my great-grandmother, Hilda Saunders (nee Wooding), until she died in 1986, aged 94.

  She was born in 1891.
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  Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  2. beliefs

  i was thinking a bit about this the other day.

  ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

  some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Wasn’t Russell sued over Miracle Wheat and Millenial Beans too and lost? - Maybe so.

  But that pales into insignificance compared to people dying of blood transfusions, the WTS covering up child sex abuse, etc.

  NB - I've never claimed Russell was great, just not as bad as what followed.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Maybe he's just an asshole -
  
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  Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking a bit about this the other day.

  ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

  some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....

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  LoveUniHateExams

  
  

  I don’t know that Bible Students attended other churches. Is there a source for that? - I read it in a yearbook.

  You and others make some good points/corrections to my OP, but I think the gist of my OP still stands. Russell, compared to Rutherford, was fairly mild.

  The turning point, for me, came when Rutherford seized power.

  Another thing I forgot to mention is shunning. Under Russell, shunning wasn't so severe as it became under Rutherford and later WT leaders.
  
  
  
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  Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking a bit about this the other day.

  ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

  some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....

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  LoveUniHateExams

  I was thinking a bit about this the other day. CT Russell, from what I remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.

  During the Russell era JWs (actually Bible Students) could still celebrate Christmas, worship in other churches if there was no Kingdom Hall available, and accept blood transfusions.

  Then after Russell died, along came Rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.

  Rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

  Some have been long forgotten about - Jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as Thursday (Thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.

  One key contribution of Rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.

  Another is shunning, something which never occurred under Russell, or at least was much milder.

  Rutherford has a lot to answer for, I reckon ...
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  A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

  and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

  in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  The WT just can't help themselves, can they?

  They've been predicting the end for 140 years, and it's simply hilarious watching them make further adjustments or come out with new light when their bullshit predictions fail.

  Let's just take the Bible and God as real, for the purpose of this discussion ...

  Jesus explicitly said that nobody (including the governing body, presumably) knows the exact date of armageddon, not the angels in heaven, nor the son, only the father.

  So, how the hell can JWs claim that the big-A is sooo close? They don't know the date, lol.

  Do they know the year? If not, do they know the decade?

  If not the decade, do they know which century it will happen in?

  The whole thing about armageddon being sooo close is madness, a form of mental illness.

  Let's say that God has planned armageddon to come in the year 2145. We'll all be long dead by then. We may as well stop all this guessing bullshit dressed up as 'deep biblical knowledge' and just live our lives and be decent people.

  That's all there is to it, folks ...
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  Who do you think leaked the Trump documents location to the FBI?

  by GabeAthouse in

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  was it melania?

  don jr?

  or gary busey's son, eric trump?.

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  TDS is still alive and well, it seems.

  The heavy-handed raid on Trump's Mar-e-Lago estate might even backfire, with Trump coming out of the episode looking better than before it started. At this point, the Democratic party and their supporters look distinctly unhinged. They will do anything to stop the Bad Orange Man, lol.

  What real story is this a smokescreen for? - Trump wants to run again in 2024, and the Democrats don't want him to because Trump would likely beat Biden to get back into power. Raiding Trump's home to find anything - anything - incriminating would derail any future political ambitions that Trump may have.
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  Free Will - Does It or Does It Not Exist?

  by truth_b_known in

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  2. beliefs

  being born-in and raised as one of jehovah's witnesses i remember a common theme or phrases used by the watchtower in its theory of why things are the way they are -.

  jehovah created humans.

  jehovah created humans as free moral agents.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  I think that free will exists.

  But I also accept that behaviour has a genetic basis and is thus a phenotype which is selected for, or selected against, by natural selection.
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  RIP Olivia Newton-John

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sad to hear of her passing.

  it's sad and weird when the images live on but the source succumbs to the human condition.. i'm sure canabis and plant based products helped her through the pain but i hope she didn't rely on them for a cure..

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  LoveUniHateExams

  I'm sure canabis and plant based products helped her through the pain but I hope she didn't rely on them for a cure - there is no cure for cancer.

  It either kills you or it doesn't. Or it kills you next time.
  
  
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  Movies that used the term Jehovah Watchtower or Witnesses!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  indiana jones 3...we had elders going to this movie.

  life of brian stoning people who say jehovah...so funny!

  even "supergirl" where someone knocks on the door of the secret hideout and the villain says "if that's those damn jehovahs witnesses again!

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  LoveUniHateExams

  Here's another movie which featured JWs in some way: Blue Velvet (1986) by David Lynch.

  Laura Dern's character Sandy is asked by Jeffrey Beaumont (played by Kyle MacLachlan) to pose as a JW because he has a few Awake magazines and wants to get into someone's house as a pest-control guy. Sandy is supposed to knock after a few minutes, posing as a JW, to see if he's ok.