Posts by BucketShopBill

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You should meet Brother Smart Engineer

by garyneal in

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my wife, who now thinks i am not competent enough to discuss spiritual matters with the kids, thinks that i could really benefit from discussing matters of the bible with this nasa engineer who attends meetings at her kingdom hall.

apparently, he is quite knowledgeable in the bible and has a good grasp of their doctrines.

at least according to her as i never actually spoken with the man at length but i do know that he is an elder.

BucketShopBill

Gary, we have Blondie, Marvin Shilmer, Ray Publisher and BillytheEx, no NASA Engineer is going to win a Bible based argument our super smart members!

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An HONEST internet debunker of Watchtower who isn't an Ex

by Terry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8elawms60.

this fellow is unique.

he is a relatively young man who is in the adventist church.. he is smart, personable and intellectually honest.. he comes from a balanced attitude without rancor.. he is very very good at debunking the watchtower.

BucketShopBill

Terry, are Jehovah's Witnesses the mentally challenged version of the SDA religion? Like the FLDS are the "mentally challenged" version of the LDS Church? SDA and LDS do try to create unity and help their communites, some of the best doctors and surgeons are SDAs(Dr. Walter Martin was impressed by their loving-kindness and emphasis on college education. When Dr. Walter Martin was battling a long illness, he spoke highly of the SDAs hospitals and leadership. His kind words about the SDAs and changed how many Fundamental Christians view them. I think he said something like "They are not a Cult and have eliminated the wrong elevation of men and women, some who were false prophets) and LDS by far has a large educated number of Mormons. Where did Charles Russell get his weird ideas, were Second-Adventist part of the SDA, I ask you because this is your expert zone. Cheers!

Good video, factual and show how Witnesses are trapped or Capitive by a Concept!

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E-Watchman? Thoughts?

by thedepressedsoul in

i stumbled upon the website e-watchman today and while i didn't have time to read over everything i found this thoughts so far quite interesting.

recently when reading matthew i can't help but feel that jesus warnings about the pharisees also applied to the gb and elders.

actually everytime jesus brought them up i realized how similar they are.

BucketShopBill

Who is he? Is he of the annointed or self-appointed annointed? What do the experts on JWN say about the e-Watchman, I don't follow his works, do any of you?

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More JW bragging about the Landover, MD. convention. Please have barf bag at the ready before reading

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

the following e-mail is circulating among jws about the international convention at fedex stadium in landover, md.

note the all-too-familiar jw claims: everything they do (including the simple act of parking cars) is proof of jehovah'stm blessing, and everything wt did at the convention was the fastest, greatest, best ever.

oh, and the never-fails-to-get-mentioned alleged 'persecution'/resistance from some unnamed authority who tried to get in watchtower's way and hamper the effort...but jws prevailed anyway (as always):.

BucketShopBill

Pete! ROFLMAO!

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More JW bragging about the Landover, MD. convention. Please have barf bag at the ready before reading

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

the following e-mail is circulating among jws about the international convention at fedex stadium in landover, md.

note the all-too-familiar jw claims: everything they do (including the simple act of parking cars) is proof of jehovah'stm blessing, and everything wt did at the convention was the fastest, greatest, best ever.

oh, and the never-fails-to-get-mentioned alleged 'persecution'/resistance from some unnamed authority who tried to get in watchtower's way and hamper the effort...but jws prevailed anyway (as always):.

BucketShopBill

God is helping JWs park their cars while allowing followers of his Son Jesus Christ to get their heads chopped off in Iraq, Syria, and Libya. Could it be Satan who was helping them?

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Pedophiles and Sex Offenders Are Fighting Back Against Their Victims!

by BucketShopBill in

use your search engine to locate all the lawsuits pedophiles are filling up the courts with to say the "sex registry is unconstituional", "pedophlia is a choice like homosexuality is" and reclassification of their crimes.

consenting male adults is their choice, how can a five-year old boy give his choice to have sex with a forty-five year old male?

you hear things as time passes by, i had the chance to listen to a legal professional say that if gay marrige was approved pedophiles would be banging at the door to get recognized as a social norm.

BucketShopBill

Use your search engine to locate all the lawsuits Pedophiles are filling up the courts with to say the "Sex Registry is Unconstituional", "Pedophlia is a choice like Homosexuality is" and reclassification of their crimes. Consenting male adults is their choice, how can a five-year old boy give his choice to have sex with a forty-five year old male? You hear things as time passes by, I had the chance to listen to a legal professional say that if Gay Marrige was approved pedophiles would be banging at the door to get recognized as a social norm. I thought this was a false argument, I asked him "how can any child give consent to have sex with a adult?" He said "they can't but pedophiles will use this as their chance to get in the Media and fight for their rights. There are some weird lawsuits that are making it up the ladder, pedophiles are trying to make in-roads against children by claiming "I was born this way" and "you can't prevent our love".

Pedophiles are masters of twisting rules and bending logic, eventually is it posible they could win their fight?

"A registered sex-offender who was arrested after attending a Baptist Church in North Carolina is challenging a law that would give him the right to go to Church without restrictions.

Twice convicted James Nichols, 31, says he is now a Christian after ‘finding God’ while spending a month and a half in jail for indecent liberties with a teen girl and attempted second-degree rape, according to the Associated Press.

Police say Nichols was arrested at his home after he attended the services because the Baptist Church he chose to worship at has a nursery. Under state laws, sex offenders are banned from coming withing 300 feet of any place used to care for children."

http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/Court-ruling-means-some-Okla-sex-offenders-will-be-removed-from-registry-231095211.html

http://texasvoices.org/aclu-church-nc/

"Trevor Shea of Mechanicsburg, Md., who was sentenced to 33 years in federal prison in January, 2012, after pleading guilty to seven counts of production of child pornography. Supporters of Indiana's ban on sex offenders using social networking say offenders often become repeat offenders. Shea had already been charged with extorting a 16-year-old girl Indiana girl to perform sexual acts during video chats when he was accused of doing the same thing to more underage girls while free on bond."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/sex-offenders-fight-facebook-article-1.1086973

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INDIANAPOLIS -- Registered sex offenders who have been banned from social networking websites are fighting back in the nation's courts, successfully challenging many of the restrictions as infringements on free speech and their right to participate in common online discussions.

The legal battles pit public outrage over sex crimes against cherished guarantees of individual freedom and the far-reaching communication changes brought by Facebook, LinkedIn and dozens of other sites.

"It's going to be really, really hard, I think, to write something that will achieve the state's purpose in protecting children online but not be restrictive enough to be unconstitutional," said Carolyn Atwell-Davis, director of legislative affairs at the Virginia-based National Center for Missing & Exploited Children."

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Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!

by exWTslave in

atheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.

jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.

interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.

BucketShopBill

crofty, how can you deal with such flawless logic as the Op Ed brings out? Now I understand why these forums get so heated and why I don't like them. How are you doing today Crofty, hope life is treating you well!

Did You Feel the Love and Happiness, Compassion and Joy in your Kingdom Halls or Not?

by BucketShopBill in

often the good people attending the kingdom halls think they are not measuring up to man made standards.

they are bewildered at the harsh treatment infliced on people who just don't measure up the kingdom halls standards.

i think there are many jws who feel like the prophet felt in 1 kings 19:18: " the lord speaks to elijah at horeb.

BucketShopBill

Often the good people attending the Kingdom Halls think they are not measuring up to man made standards. They are bewildered at the harsh treatment infliced on people who just don't measure up the Kingdom Halls standards. I think there are many JWs who feel like the prophet felt in 1 Kings 19:18: " The Lord Speaks to Elijah at Horeb
… 17 "It shall come about, the one who escapes from the sword of Hazael, Jehu shall put to death, and the one who escapes from the sword of Jehu, Elisha shall put to death. 18 "Yet I will leave 7,000 in Israel, all the knees that have not bowed to Baal and every mouth that has not kissed him."

Jesus is not limited like humans are, he see's the good in people whether they believe in him or not, their conduct is how he is going to Save them. I can't imagine God killing a righteous person who was so stumbled by the wickedness of relious leaders, they just stopped. Abraham's dialogue with Jehovah showed he would not kill righteous men, Jehovah was not tricking Abraham by saying "I won't destroy Sodom if "ten rightoues men are found", I think he discounts our condition, how far from his original genetic make-up we are, not the mad ramblings of Cult Leaders. Instead of thinking "How can we better help the Sheep, go and show love to Witnesses fallen off the grid, they gather together and slap each other on the back yelling, "we are so righteous and good, thank Jehovah were not like the tax collectors and other sinners!"

""Do not go on to offer oblation of vanity; incense of abomination is it to me; do not go on, I say, on the new moon, and sabbath, to call a convocation: I cannot bear iniquity, together with the most solemn congregation.

'' http://biblehub.com/1_kings/19-18.htm

http://biblehub.com/isaiah/1-13.htm

Parallel Verses New International Version
Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations-- I cannot bear your worthless assemblies.

New Living Translation
Stop bringing me your meaningless gifts; the incense of your offerings disgusts me! As for your celebrations of the new moon and the Sabbath and your special days for fasting--they are all sinful and false. I want no more of your pious meetings.

English Standard Version
Bring no more vain offerings; incense is an abomination to me. New moon and Sabbath and the calling of convocations— I cannot endure iniquity and solemn assembly.

New American Standard Bible
"Bring your worthless offerings no longer, Incense is an abomination to Me. New moon and sabbath, the calling of assemblies-- I cannot endure iniquity and the solemn assembly.

King James Bible
Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Stop bringing useless offerings. Your incense is detestable to Me. New Moons and Sabbaths, and the calling of solemn assemblies-- I cannot stand iniquity with a festival.

International Standard Version
Stop bringing useless offerings! Incense is detestable to me, as are your New Moons, Sabbaths, and calling of convocations. I cannot stand iniquity within a solemn assembly.

NET Bible
Do not bring any more meaningless offerings; I consider your incense detestable! You observe new moon festivals, Sabbaths, and convocations, but I cannot tolerate sin-stained celebrations! The Lord Speaks to Elijah at Horeb
…17"It shall come about, the one who escapes from the sword of Hazael, Jehu shall put to death, and the one who escapes from the sword of Jehu, Elisha shall put to death.18"Yet I will leave 7,000 in Israel, all the knees that have not bowed to Baal and every mouth that has not kissed him."

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary 19:14-18 God repeated the question, What doest thou here? Then he complained of his discouragement; and whither should God's prophets go with their complaints of that kind, but to their Master? The Lord gave him an answer. He declares that the wicked house of Ahab shall be rooted out, that the people of Israel shall be punished for their sins; and he shows that Elijah was not left alone as he had supposed, and also that a helper should at once be raised up for him. Thus all his complaints are answered and provided for. God's faithful ones are often his hidden ones, Ps 83:3, and the visible church is scarcely to be seen: the wheat is lost in chaff, and the gold in dross, till the sifting, refining, separating day comes. The Lord knows them that are his, though we do not; he sees in secret. When we come to heaven we shall miss many whom we thought to have met there; we shall meet many whom we little thought to have met there. God's love often proves larger than man's charity, and far more extended.

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Jesus was a false prophet?

by opusdei1972 in

and he said to them, "i tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of god come with power.

(mark 9:1).

when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.

BucketShopBill

The "Transfiguration", that's who saw the Kingdom of God. They saw the Kingdom of God, saw Elisha and Moses speaking with Jesus Christ.

Eusbebious quoted the First Century Church Father who backed up the Jerusalem Disciples fleeing to Pela, the Bible is filled with people who miss it's point. I was tricked by the Watchtower, they are the ones who put this in our mind. If Jesus was really a crook, he could have said "My Kingdom is Spiritual Kingdom" and nobody could discredit that.

Jesus said his Kingdom would be a Earthly Kingdom, as shown in Act 1:3, 6-7 it's obvious he was spoke of a future kingdom. His illustrations constantly told his followers they would have to wait. He tell's Peter what manner of death he is going to suffer, same with Paul and the Apostles and disciples came to the wrong conclusions.

"To these He also presented Himself alive, after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days, and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God . . . And so when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, “Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?” He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority . . . (NASB) Acts 1:3, 6-7

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19 (He said this to show the kind of death—by crucifixion—by which Peter was going to honour God.) Then Jesus said to him, “You must follow me.”

20-21 Then Peter turned round and noticed the disciple whom Jesus loved following behind them. (He was the one who had his head on Jesus’ shoulder at supper and had asked, “Lord, who is the one who is going to betray you?”) So he said, “Yes, Lord, but what about him?”

22 “If it is my wish,” returned Jesus, “for him to stay until I come, is that your business, Peter? You must follow me.”

23 This gave rise to the saying among the brothers that this disciple would not die. Yet, of course, Jesus did not say, “He will not die,”, but simply, “If it is my wish for him to stay until I come, is that your business?”

All the above was written by an eye-witness

24-25 Now it is this same disciple who is hereby giving his testimony to these things and has written them down. We know that his witness is reliable. Of course, there are many other things which Jesus did, and I suppose that if each one were written down in detail, there would not be room in the whole world for all the books that would have to be written."

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Robin Williams passes

by designs in

don't know quite what to say.

just stunned at the news.

comic genius and actor.. share your favorite robin williams moments.. .

BucketShopBill

I knew he was suffering and mentioned thoughts of suicide, why do all the good people suffer and kill themselves?

I heard someone explain it like this, "You feel so horrible everyday, nothing dulls the pain, booze and drugs don't work so you do the only thing to make it stop. You kill yourself!"

GOD BLESS YOU ROBIN WILLIAMS, I HOPE YOU FIND PEACE IN THE AFTER-LIFE, PLANET EARTH IS A LESSOR PLACE WITHOUT YOU! I BELIEVE HE IS IN HEAVEN, NO MAN WHO PROVIDED THIS MUCH LOVE AND JOY SHOULD SUFFER SO BADLY! DAMN IT!